Gone Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: They produced a lot more than Marriott did that's for sure. He was underperforming, lacking in fitness and not suitable. It would have been pointless to keep banging our head against the wall with him. Maybe he goes to Sheffield and comes back fit, in form and confident and can contribute later this season or next. I say this as a big fan of Marriott, for now this is a sensible move. Yeah maybe you’re right, just think it’s going to be another long hard and boring season with little attacking football to enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase116 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just wonder if Marriott going out, means a last ditch attempt to hijack Wilson deal? But to be honest from what Cocu was saying, it’s going to be another free agent, gestade? Feel for jack, we haven’t played to his strengths, plus also feel the contract extension is so we can get a fee for him in the summer. Here’s hoping for at least one surprise incoming today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jase116 said: Just wonder if Marriott going out, means a last ditch attempt to hijack Wilson deal? But to be honest from what Cocu was saying, it’s going to be another free agent, gestade? Feel for jack, we haven’t played to his strengths, plus also feel the contract extension is so we can get a fee for him in the summer. Here’s hoping for at least one surprise incoming today. I wouldn't mind Gestede at all. In fact, in comparison to those we've been linked with, I'd be extremely happy with Gestede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jase116 said: Just wonder if Marriott going out, means a last ditch attempt to hijack Wilson deal? But to be honest from what Cocu was saying, it’s going to be another free agent, gestade? Feel for jack, we haven’t played to his strengths, plus also feel the contract extension is so we can get a fee for him in the summer. Here’s hoping for at least one surprise incoming today. You can't really play to strengths that don't exist. Marriott has been garbage since the Playoffs all that time ago. Plus he's nowhere near as fast as people seem to think he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyram Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 29 minutes ago, DCFC27 said: Anyone think we may have rushed this through on account of Wilson availability? Unfortunately not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ambitious said: I wouldn't mind Gestede at all. In fact, in comparison to those we've been linked with, I'd be extremely happy with Gestede. The same Gestede that most recently refused to train because he wanted a bigger move and was creating toxicity round the training ground so was told in no uncertain terms by Warnock to go home and not bother coming back? He sounds ideal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clamped Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Sounds like we've extended his contract whilst loaning him out? Very confusing. I'm guessing for financial reasons but is he likely to be in our plans next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ambitious said: I wouldn't mind Gestede at all. In fact, in comparison to those we've been linked with, I'd be extremely happy with Gestede. Better option than wickham on a short term deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Derbados said: The same Gestede that most recently refused to train because he wanted a bigger move and was creating toxicity round the training ground so was told in no uncertain terms by Warnock to go home and not bother coming back? He sounds ideal In fairness... I really couldn't care less at this stage. It's absolutely the best we will get at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 34 minutes ago, Jourdan said: Bielik is working his way back from a serious injury, not a weekend in Budapest. Surely being Derby fans and having seen what such injuries did to George Thorne, we should temper our expectations for him. At least for this year. Bird, Sibley and Knight are very talented, but they are still kids at the end of the day. Some days they will indeed look the part, but it’s too soon to be pinning our hopes on them. Again they need a year or two. We all love Holmes and see that he is a talented player, but he is also sadly very injury prone and inconsistent. Shinnie is a useful squad player, but as yet, he hasn’t shown signs of being anything more. So in reality, it’s only Lawrence who is ready for the here and now and can be relied upon as a key player - and he’s still injured. So Lawrence in the 10 with Rooney and 1 of the others, whichever is in-form behind. That also leaves plenty of cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, clamped said: Sounds like we've extended his contract whilst loaning him out? Very confusing. I'm guessing for financial reasons but is he likely to be in our plans next season? He'd be on a free in the Summer if we hadn't. If he does well at Wednesday then we should be able to get a £1m+ fee from them or someone else when we sell him. Makes perfect sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, Carnero said: He'd be on a free in the Summer if we hadn't. If he does well at Wednesday then we should be able to get a £1m+ fee from them or someone else when we sell him. Makes perfect sense to me. The underlying issue for me is that we trust another team to make our players more valuable than ourselves. Maybe Wednesday will take on Sibley and Bird too, if we ask them nicely ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Ambitious said: It's absolutely the best we will get at this stage. I agree and what a sad indictment it is. how long have we had to get this sorted? appalling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Marriott. - this move makes total sense - extend his contract to retain our investment whilst he gets football because he doesn’t get selected here and we can bring him back in January if we want to. Cocu has moved on basically everyone who simply was soaking up wages without contributing ( Marriott only marginally ) whilst we have actually brought in a lot of players - I would have liked Wilson mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 When’s the deadline....5pm??? Maybe we can save the bed wetting till at least then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, Ramarena said: When’s the deadline....5pm??? Maybe we can save the bed wetting till at least then? Have you seen our most recent deadline days? there’s not much to be confident about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Marriott's not been the same since Mr Potato Head called him out on live TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, TexasRam said: Yeah maybe you’re right, just think it’s going to be another long hard and boring season with little attacking football to enjoy. I think you might also be right there. I am holding out a hope that when we actually do have a full squad to pick from that something will click and we'll see an upturn. A bit like last season but less temporary. If not, Cocu will get sacked and Rooney and John Gregory can lead us to glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 This is a good move, in my opinion. I don't particularly rate Jack - in his first year he seemed clinical in what was a very clinical team - but since then his finishing has been no better than any of our other forwards. In his three years at Derby, in terms of minutes on the pitch, he is still 10 games short of a single full Championship season (46 games). Also, the recall option protects us a little from the shenanigans of the past - if he does find his health / his form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 33 minutes ago, Rampage said: Helpful hint #156 - sign a replacement then sell the player that you wish to leave. True, but we may well have done so and don’t know about it yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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