IslandExile Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Snog - Frank Marry - Cocu Avoid - Rowett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Cocu has had to manage in such crazy circumstances that no credible publisher would consider a manuscript with such a (fictitious) storyline. The bizarre thing.... it's actually happened, all in one roller coaster season. Time will tell as to whether Philip Cocu can equal Franks achievement of a Wembley play off Final. One thing for sure, Cocu will never for get his first season at DCFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Has Rowett got a better squad at Millwall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 9 hours ago, Mostyn6 said: Has Rowett got a better squad at Millwall? In a Lampard v Cocu thread, not sure that has any relevance. But I see the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihangel Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 It's probably already been said but add Carson, Keogh, Tomori, Johnson, Mount, Wilson to our squad right now and I think there's only one winner. Not to mention having the likes of Huddlestone and Bielik more regularly available. I loved having Lamps at Derby but Cocu is about as good a fit for Morris' aims as we could possibly get. The right man for the job, I have no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 10 hours ago, Mostyn6 said: Has Rowett got a better squad at Millwall? It’s easier to organise a side for immediate results than it is to develop a side that plays passing football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 I’m glad we have cocu, I can see the progress of the team. I’m also glad ( ??) that for once we will have the same manager starting the next season and I hope the one after that. A good manager and continuity is what we need for promotion and I feel that we have that now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 I think we need to put things into perspective - cold hard figures tell you that this is our worse season for the past 7 years. But we can all see green shoots of progress - its just critical that we take the time to add real value to the squad in the areas where we all recognise improvement is needed. Not convinced that we are certs for next year at all - but will look forward to next season as always and hope the team at least has some improvements in there (im sure it will). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Can someone show me stats or name a team that has been successful in English football, in the last thirty years, using the philosophy that Cocu is currently using? Possession football is not enough without the ability to score goals. You won’t score goals without pace and positive intent. There’s clearly a football intelligence in Cocu, but for me, he’s doing the tactical philosophy part of Derby all wrong and its a bit too Nigel Clough to ever bring success. Regardless of player quality. You can have a Ferrari but if you race in first gear, a Fiat Punto will beat you in a long race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Mostyn6 said: Can someone show me stats or name a team that has been successful in English football, in the last thirty years, using the philosophy that Cocu is currently using? Possession football is not enough without the ability to score goals. You won’t score goals without pace and positive intent. There’s clearly a football intelligence in Cocu, but for me, he’s doing the tactical philosophy part of Derby all wrong and its a bit too Nigel Clough to ever bring success. Regardless of player quality. You can have a Ferrari but if you race in first gear, a Fiat Punto will beat you in a long race. Or the Ferrara you been given to race has a punto engine in it and the fans fully expect it to run and perform like a Ferrari so much so that they boo throughout races if it doesn’t then stops buying tickets to watch the races to the point that you can’t even afford the punto engine anymore and your sticking a Vespa 125 under the bonnet ,,,, it a conundrum isn’t it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Cocu seems a little calmer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 minute ago, IslandExile said: Cocu seems a little calmer... What an arse Lampard is there. Watched bits of the match and saw the challenge this relates to, it was reckless and nasty (imo). Got to say in the choice it's always been Cocu for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 47 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: What an arse Lampard is there. Watched bits of the match and saw the challenge this relates to, it was reckless and nasty (imo). Got to say in the choice it's always been Cocu for me. Yep me too,,, I reckon it boils down to lampard is for lampard and cocu is more about success for the players he’s coaching and the kids he’s nurturing, lampard won’t last the course it’s a very different role from playing the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustOneBiblicalKazim Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 How can Lampard complain about arrogance and giving it the ‘bigun’ after some of his celebrations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 On 18/07/2020 at 22:50, Mostyn6 said: Has Rowett got a better squad at Millwall? He certainly hasn't had to put up with the sorts of issues Cocu has faced this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Fat boy was here for 2 reasons, the money and as a stepping stone, he treated us exactly how i expected him to, as soon as a bigger deal was thrown on the table he was off as many have said I think that if he had fluked a win at Wembley then he still would have gone but because he picked Bennett and Roos we will never know...... Cocu is here to rebuild his reputation, after the mess in Turkey I guess he thought he was coming to a some what stable environment..... Benett, Keogh, Lawrence and the other numpteys soon changed that for him.....If we go up next year, im not sure he would leave for a "bigger" club.....the one thing that could make him leave though is the constant shitstorm he has to deal with. Overall, give me Cocu everytime over the other guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 13 hours ago, MuespachRam said: Fat boy was here for 2 reasons, the money and as a stepping stone, he treated us exactly how i expected him to, as soon as a bigger deal was thrown on the table he was off as many have said I think that if he had fluked a win at Wembley then he still would have gone but because he picked Bennett and Roos we will never know...... Cocu is here to rebuild his reputation, after the mess in Turkey I guess he thought he was coming to a some what stable environment..... Benett, Keogh, Lawrence and the other numpteys soon changed that for him.....If we go up next year, im not sure he would leave for a "bigger" club.....the one thing that could make him leave though is the constant shitstorm he has to deal with. Overall, give me Cocu everytime over the other guy. If a top Premier League club came in for Cocu this summer. He would be off. Even without the connection Lampard has with Chelsea. Don’t kid yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiverton Ram Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Just think what Cocu could have done with the squad Frank had! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, David said: If a top Premier League club came in for Cocu this summer. He would be off. Even without the connection Lampard has with Chelsea. Don’t kid yourself. Yeah but he'd conduct it in a better manner. No birthday videos for sure, more respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 15 hours ago, MuespachRam said: Fat boy was here for 2 reasons, the money and as a stepping stone, he treated us exactly how i expected him to, as soon as a bigger deal was thrown on the table he was off as many have said I think that if he had fluked a win at Wembley then he still would have gone but because he picked Bennett and Roos we will never know...... Cocu is here to rebuild his reputation, after the mess in Turkey I guess he thought he was coming to a some what stable environment..... Benett, Keogh, Lawrence and the other numpteys soon changed that for him.....If we go up next year, im not sure he would leave for a "bigger" club.....the one thing that could make him leave though is the constant shitstorm he has to deal with. Overall, give me Cocu everytime over the other guy. If you, as a Derby fan, were manager of someone like Doncaster, then Derby came calling, I doubt you'd turn it down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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