rustylee Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 44 minutes ago, BondJovi said: Say that touch rolls through to the keeper, would it have counted as a back pass? No because it was a deliberate attempt to play the ball ( clear it) not a deliberate attempt to pass it back to the keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, BondJovi said: Say that touch rolls through to the keeper, would it have counted as a back pass? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 50 minutes ago, rustylee said: No because it was a deliberate attempt to play the ball ( clear it) not a deliberate attempt to pass it back to the keeper. 17 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: No Then doesn't that mean it had to be offside? The striker had gained an advantage regardless of that touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, BondJovi said: Then doesn't that mean it had to be offside? The striker had gained an advantage regardless of that touch. He's not gaining an advantage until he touches the ball. In the meantime the defender has played the ball deliberately. That the ball didn't go where the defender intended is immaterial: 'A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by: • interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or • interfering with an opponent by: preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or challenging an opponent for the ball or clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball or gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has: rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar, match official or an opponent been deliberately saved by any opponent' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 The defender only tries to get the ball because of the striker. He can't know if it is offside or not. As soon as the striker moves towards the ball he is interfering with play. Any touch is minimal. You don't award a goal to the player who deflects a shot that is on target anyway when going in. That pass barely changed direction or speed. Rules are rubbish. TigerTedd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazztie16 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 From a refereeing forum, this might make things simpler... Before the defender deliberately plays the ball, the attacker has not touched the ball, the attacker hasn't prevented the opponent from being able to play the ball, the attacker hasn't challenged the opponent for the ball, the attacker hasn't attempted to play the ball, or made an action which impacted on the ability of the opponent to play the ball. As the offside law is written, it simply cannot be offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, BondJovi said: The defender only tries to get the ball because of the striker. He can't know if it is offside or not. As soon as the striker moves towards the ball he is interfering with play. Any touch is minimal. You don't award a goal to the player who deflects a shot that is on target anyway when going in. That pass barely changed direction or speed. Rules are rubbish. The rules might be but the interpretation of them for this goal is 100% correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 hours ago, BondJovi said: The defender only tries to get the ball because of the striker. He can't know if it is offside or not. As soon as the striker moves towards the ball he is interfering with play. Any touch is minimal. You don't award a goal to the player who deflects a shot that is on target anyway when going in. That pass barely changed direction or speed. Rules are rubbish. Exactly. The interpretation may be correct, but if the defender had just left it, it would have been offside. We’ve seen this before, the defender is just trying to be safe, and doesn’t think he can rely on the ref to call it. Maybe defenders just need to trust var a bit more now, and take the grace decision to leave it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Amazing goalkeeping by Mendy for Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Wolfie20 said: Amazing goalkeeping by Mendy for Chelsea. Agreed - and what a great effort from Brentford….Really had a go and deserved to get something from the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Mind you, watching motd it's painful watching the progression of Leicester. Surely there must be a reversion to the mean soon... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Mind you, watching motd it's painful watching the progression of Leicester. Surely there must be a reversion to the mean soon... ? Although not as painful as the efforts of Harry "£80m" Maguire...... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRam Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Jamie Paterson on fire today what a game he’s having Van der MoodHoover 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, SKRam said: Jamie Paterson on fire today what a game he’s having Flashback from the BBC text.... It should be 3-1 as Ben Hamer misses his punch, but Ryan Bennett does brilliantly to prevent Kieffer Moore finding the empty net.... ? SKRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 The fawning over Newcastle's new owners is sickening. These people are mass murderers and destroyers of freedom. SKRam and MuespachRam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRam Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: The fawning over Newcastle's new owners is sickening. These people are mass murderers and destroyers of freedom. … and they’re losing. Permission to snigger AndyinLiverpool 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRam Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Flashback from the BBC text.... It should be 3-1 as Ben Hamer misses his punch, but Ryan Bennett does brilliantly to prevent Kieffer Moore finding the empty net.... ? What the Lord giveth the Lord taketh away Van der MoodHoover 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRam Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 That Spurs kit…. I think I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Fan has collapsed in the crowd. Players off. Hope all resolves itself SKRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRam Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Jonjo Shelvey ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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