Gaspode Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 If the EFL follow this through and the stadium is valued at less than Mel paid for it (for FFP purposes) where does that leave the remainder of the dosh? Do the club have to repay Mel or have we now got a nice big transfer kitty to spend? At the end of the day an asset (be that a player or a stadium) is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it -seems to me that the EFL have a big hole in their regulations that we’ve exploited - legally I’d be surprised if the EFL are allowed to retrospectively punish us because their rules weren’t tight enough to prevent this -and I’m sure that’s the line Mel will take when it all gets legal (as it most certainly will)..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, Andicis said: Or the EFL has it wrong and they were right? Hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Dhabi Ram Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Football is just the pits, and I'm rapidly losing interest in the bigger picture. Var ruins the pl, while ffp ruins the efl. Ffp is bull#$@@ so Villa are ok, QPR are ok, but we are not. Every year it is watch the money, we need to sell before we can buy etc and then this. If we had just stuck two fingers up at the efl and spent like Villa we'd be up and seemingly untouchable. On a more ration note, let's just play the kids and wait until Burnley prize them off us with undisclosed bids, too good to turn down. Either way, its dominated by finances and when your in our position it's really ducking difficult! A big club, just not quite big enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: So when Morris and Pearson are telling the fans we are within all of the limits are they lying or just incompetent? Or correct and the EFL are incompetent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, Squid said: Pumping in money and chopping and changing managers with different styles of play is what the majority of our fans wanted!!! Oh well, that makes it ok then I dare say most fans from most clubs would want it as well but you dont see other owners making a mess of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 29 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: I'd be very surprised to see a professional valuer including theoretical improvements in a valuation. Of course it may be the valuation of £80m was given subject to certain works being carried out and certain income being derived from other events, if that is correct and DCFC have used that methodology for the valuation I can understand the EFL challenging it. FWIW though, that is not stated in the accounts and these have also been signed off by independent auditors. Mel expressly stated that wasn't the case in his interview with Jim White. He expressly said people would be properly pissed off if he made the infrastructure improvements to enable midweek concert holding etc, and then bought the stadium for far more than it's worth now. So he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 We will end up in the tird division, but we’ve been there and returned the better for it. From a pile of ashes a bird will arise and the chaff will be spread about, and Gibbo’s effigy will be in the 6 yard box. Thanks for nothing you muffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Wonder if season tickets will be on sale next week as they usually are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, BathRam72 said: Oh well, that makes it ok then I dare say most fans from most clubs would want it as well but you dont see other owners making a mess of it Really? Lots of clubs seem to be, or have been, in trouble of some form or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilGeeWasMyIdol Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I'm trying to think positively. 1. We don't have a deduction yet, QPR avoided it, so there is precedent that a charge does not automatically equal a deduction. 2. If we do get a deduction 9 points was Birmingham's, so it's reasonable to expect that sort of level. We are 10 points off relegation and I would expect us to finish above bottom 3. We are unlikely to get to top 6 without the deduction and had it come last season it would have ruined a very enjoyable ride and might have meant Leeds went up. If it comes, then we draw a line under the season and move on. Let's not forget Knight, Sibley and the rest will be more experienced and improved by the start of next season. Tough year though, my lads are young and just getting into it, it might be hard work. COYR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Just now, Abu Derby said: We will end up in the tird division, but we’ve been there and returned the better for it. From a pile of ashes a bird will arise and the chaff will be spread about, and Gibbo’s effigy will be in the 6 yard box. Thanks for nothing you muffin. Well thats just poo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I think no one likes a smartarse hence why the EFL have taken this action as it comes across as a personal sleight. Morris also has probably out a few noses out of joint in the EFL as well regards his outspoken comments regards the Championship TV money and looking at forming another league if this wasn't addressed. Seems to be a just remember whose in charge reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EraniosSocks Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Start the decade as we seem to go on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 EFL briefing independent valuer: 'now look George, we don't much care for this Morris chappie. He thinks that we're financially incompetent in the way we negotiated several TV deals. But we've got to keep old Gibbo and a couple of dirty clubs happy, so if you could just see your way to keeping the final figure around £50m we can see some more business coming your way.' Mel briefing independent valuer: 'now look Georgina, I need to find a way of balancing the books and getting some money into the club I love, so if you could just see your way to making the final figure around £80m including the future developments then I will be very happy' Gentlemen, choose your independent valuer. All fantasy and made up of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Just now, Tyler Durden said: I think no one likes a smartarse hence why the EFL have taken this action as it comes across as a personal sleight. Morris also has probably out a few noses out of joint in the EFL as well regards his outspoken comments regards the Championship TV money and looking at forming another league if this wasn't addressed. Seems to be a just remember whose in charge reaction. They are probably still upset we forced them to take action against leeds. Also they were dying to do us over the cardiff postponement a couple of years back but couldn't make it stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I wonder if this is a us or them approach from the efl. Gibson has sued them and maybe its their way of placating him, perhaps the risk to them if they lose to us is less than losing to Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Please don’t post comments that could be classed as libelous, as they will be removed and a ban could be issued. You have been gently warned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 27 minutes ago, desirelines said: If Mel wants to spend a daft amount of his own money on Derby, why should we be punished for it? EFL is a joke. FFP and the reason it was introduced in the first place is a joke. I know it’s a different authority, but UEFA only brought it in to keep big clubs in Europe safe (specifically Inter and AC Milan because they were struggling off the field-ironically they’ve become even worse since ffp’s introduction) and to prevent another Man City or PSG situation, putting the other big European clubs at risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I dunno about anyone else but I’m genuinely not worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 27 minutes ago, Finch said: 80 million would be too much for the entire club. Trouble ahead. There was one report that said you’d expect to get the whole club plus chesterfield thrown in for free for that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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