Norman Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 2 hours ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Half and half scarves have somehow found their way into politics. But in all seriousness, this is actually quite a touching gesture. Such a shame they took us for Bamfords at every single negotiation in the 30 years. At least they now acknowledge the contribution we have made to making Europe something to be proud of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Norman said: Such a shame they took us for Bamfords at every single negotiation in the 30 years. At least they now acknowledge the contribution we have made to making Europe something to be proud of. The Empire strikes back. Oh poo never meant to mention it honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rev Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 I'd assume we probably needed new 50p pieces minted anyway, so probably not a massive extra cost tbf. Just think, we're less than a year away from waving goodbye to remote unelected representatives, and can welcome in a new era of transparency by holding our own politicians to account. Like Nicky Morgan and Zac Goldsmith, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 50 minutes ago, reverendo de duivel said: I'd assume we probably needed new 50p pieces minted anyway, so probably not a massive extra cost tbf. Just think, we're less than a year away from waving goodbye to remote unelected representatives, and can welcome in a new era of transparency by holding our own politicians to account. Like Nicky Morgan and Zac Goldsmith, for example. Yep even Gove as stated that MPs will have to up their game. As they will no longer be able blame any failings are down to the EU. Will be interesting to see who they will now try to pass the blame on to, or if they do actually put their hand up and take responsibility when something goes tits up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ram for All Seasons Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 40 minutes ago, 1of4 said: As they will no longer be able blame any failings are down to the EU. Will be interesting to see who they will now try to pass the blame on to Foreigners in general, instead of EU foreigners in particular. Oh, and the Labour Party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Before the last election, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Sajid Javid stated that austerity was over and the government had more money available for them to spend. So why his he along with his boss Prime Minister Johnson ordering all cabinet ministers to reduce their department's budgets by 5%. Doesn't sound much like the end of austerity. Especially now, as the country enters a wonderful period of peace, prosperity and friendship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriggRam Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 55 minutes ago, 1of4 said: Before the last election, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Sajid Javid stated that austerity was over and the government had more money available for them to spend. So why his he along with his boss Prime Minister Johnson ordering all cabinet ministers to reduce their department's budgets by 5%. Doesn't sound much like the end of austerity. Especially now, as the country enters a wonderful period of peace, prosperity and friendship. Maybe they are freeing up some money to pay for free internet for the whole country ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, BriggRam said: Maybe they are freeing up some money to pay for free internet for the whole country ? Eh? A policy proposed by the opposition that didn't get elected is basically irrelevant to the point 1of4 was trying to make. A fair question was asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriggRam Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: 1 hour ago, 1of4 said: Doesn't sound much like the end of austerity. Especially now, as the country enters a wonderful period of peace, prosperity and friendship. opposition that didn't get elected is basically irrelevant to the point 1of4 was trying to make. A fair question was asked. It wasn’t really a question more a childish swipe, ending with a hint of sarcasm......my response was just full on sarcasm reminding him of the sort of outrageously stupid promises the Liebour party put forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, BriggRam said: It wasn’t really a question more a childish swipe, ending with a hint of sarcasm......my response was just full on sarcasm reminding him of the sort of outrageously stupid promises the Liebour party put forward The promises Labour put forward are irrelevant though because they are not in government. The promises our actual government put forward are not irrelevant and questions should be asked if they appear to be unwilling or unable to fulfil them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 56 minutes ago, BriggRam said: It wasn’t really a question more a childish swipe, ending with a hint of sarcasm......my response was just full on sarcasm reminding him of the sort of outrageously stupid promises the Liebour party put forward The Conservatives, that have been elected, have broken it's pledges one month after being elected but that's ok because you don't think Labour, that haven't been elected, wouldn't have been able to deliver free Internet to everyone. Am I missing something here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 hours ago, 1of4 said: Before the last election, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Sajid Javid stated that austerity was over and the government had more money available for them to spend. So why his he along with his boss Prime Minister Johnson ordering all cabinet ministers to reduce their department's budgets by 5%. Doesn't sound much like the end of austerity. Especially now, as the country enters a wonderful period of peace, prosperity and friendship. Sounds like good financial management to me. I'm not surprised it seems an alien concept to our left leaning brethren. There's always a spending review with any new government & asking every department to justify their spending (especially on old projects which haven't produced the results expected). It's clearing the decks before the budget in March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 36 minutes ago, BriggRam said: It wasn’t really a question more a childish swipe, ending with a hint of sarcasm......my response was just full on sarcasm reminding him of the sort of outrageously stupid promises the Liebour party put forward No the ending was full on sarcasm. As for the first part that was a genuine question about austerity, is it or is it not over. As for what the Labour Party said before the election, is now irrelevant, they lost. It's this present government that is accountable for what it said previously and what it does now that as to be held up to scrutiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Van Wolfie said: Sounds like good financial management to me. I'm not surprised it seems an alien concept to our left leaning brethren. There's always a spending review with any new government & asking every department to justify their spending (especially on old projects which haven't produced the results expected). It's clearing the decks before the budget in March. Why is there a need for a spending review. This is not a new government, it's the same one that held office prior to the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 30 minutes ago, Van Wolfie said: Sounds like good financial management to me. I'm not surprised it seems an alien concept to our left leaning brethren. There's always a spending review with any new government & asking every department to justify their spending (especially on old projects which haven't produced the results expected). It's clearing the decks before the budget in March. So why not say that before the election? Can't imagine why he would avoid the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriggRam Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, rynny said: The Conservatives, that have been elected, have broken it's pledges one month after being elected but that's ok because you don't think Labour, that haven't been elected, wouldn't have been able to deliver free Internet to everyone. Am I missing something here? Ok so someone puts a post up basically highlighting that this government has broken its pledge on spending and that all government departments have to make 5% cuts, so the government told a lie just a month after being elected.....I don’t know the answer, but I find it funny to think that if labour got in, would 1 month later people on here be arguing that they were still paying for the internet......all political parties tell porkies, especially during elections..... but Corbyns lies/pledges were totally ducking bonkers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, BriggRam said: Ok so someone puts a post up basically highlighting that this government has broken its pledge on spending and that all government departments have to make 5% cuts so the government told a lie just a month after being elected.....I don’t know the answer, but I find it funny to think that if labour got in, would 1 month later people on here be arguing that they were still paying for the internet......all political parties tell porkies, especially during elections..... but Corbyns lies/pledges were totally ducking bonkers I don't think the justification for it should ever be 'everyone does it'. I couldn't care less. It's neither here nor there what the opposition would have said if in power. He said it, he should be scrutinised because he is spending our money and he should be held to account. He needs to explain what has changed since he said what he did and why he now needs to do the opposite of what he said he would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 The notion that we can't ask questions of our actual government because the opposition made some daft claims in the election is absolutely mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 One can only imagine the reaction if within a month of coming to power Jeremy "National Security Threat" Corbyn had decided to allow Huawei to be involved in building the 5G network, nationalised a rail service, taken a plane from London to Cardiff instead of a train and broken a fundamental promise on spending It's almost like no one gives a damn when it's Tories doing it. There has to be a word for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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