A Ram for All Seasons

Caroline Lucas (@CarolineLucas) Tweeted: MPs had more time to debate the Wild Animals in Circuses Act (affecting 19 animals) than they will to decide the future of 65 million people 🐪👩‍👩‍👧‍👦🦓 It’s hard to think of anything which better illustrates this Govt’s contempt for people, Parliament & democracy #Brexit https://twitter.com/CarolineLucas/status/1186557199990087685?s=17

Where did you get that idea from? This is a discussion board where people post and discuss various different ideas, which others may or may not agree with. I'm still waiting for a reply that rises above the level of "rubbish" or "baalocks".

The only way that this will become "fact" is if they own up to it, and they're not likely to do that, are they? If I had access to the highest offices of state, I wouldn't be posting here on a football message board. She does have an agenda, which is standing up for working people, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Well, we don't have tsunamis like they do in Sri Lanka and our economy isn't based largely on silver, tin and cocaine like Bolivia's, but the same trends can be seen.

Come on then. Get your finger out and start telling me why I shouldn't believe what she says. Tell me where I've gone wrong. Do us all a favour and put forward some counter arguments. Give us some keen, cutting-edge Brexiter insights that we can all share and learn from, instead of just coming out with "rubbish" or "baalocks" at every opportunity. Tell us about feminists and social activists and their role in the Brexit process.

While I was having my tea, I thought you might have surprised me by taking the opportunity to tell me why I'm wrong without just using the words "rubbish" or "baalocks", so here you are. This blog sums up very well what I and many others have been trying to say. It is written by someone who knows how to write good English and knows what a greengrocer's apostrophe is, which probably makes him part of the out-of-touch, sneering liberal elite that Brexiters hate so much. http://theconversation.com/deregulation-and-standards-after-brexit-what-naomi-kleins-disaster-capitalism-can-tell-us-124908

Tell me why I'm wrong then.

Well, the UK is already exempt from the EU Working Time Directive which is designed to prevent people from having to work excessive hours. The aim of Brexit is to get rid of all other regulations so that Britain can become a sweatshop.

To quote Dominic Raab: "The British are among the worst idlers in the world. We work among the lowest hours, we retire early and our productivity is poor. Whereas Indian children aspire to be doctors or businessmen, the British are more interested in football and pop music." Thus speaks the voice of privilege. And these are the people that accuse us of "hating our country". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannia_Unchained?wprov=sfla1

The Tories want to compete by aligning the employment conditions and rights of British workers to those of China, India and Vietnam by lowering standards and creating a "Singapore on Thames", undercutting our European neighbours. We will really start moaning when we become Europe's offshore sweatshop. Any future trade deals with the EU will be worse that the ones we have at the moment, and third party countries will recognize Britain's weakness when the trade deals we currently have with them via the EU have to be renegotiated after Brexit. Trump will have Britain for breakfast.

I work for a chemical company and used to do lots of work for the leather industry, which has now more or less disappeared from Europe. Clark's shoes used to be made in Shepton Mallet with leather made in Yeovil. Now everything is made in Vietnam. Luckily, my company has a no compulsory redundancies agreement, so I have been moved on to other work. If I had to look for another job, my pay and conditions would be very much worse. Thank goodness I will be retiring very soon.

True, the supply of workers will be lower, but demand for their services will fall even more sharply if the economy tanks because of all the disruption caused by Brexit, as has been predicted.

I do

There will be jobs after Brexit, but at much reduced rates of pay and with much inferior conditions. There will be no need to import cheap labour any more because native Britons will be dirt cheap and without rights. Companies will go to the wall, reducing asset prices and allowing the hedge funds that pay the Tories to pick up businesses on the cheap. They will then be able to hide their profits in tax havens under British control. The whole aim of Brexit is to cause as much disruption as possible so that these policies can be implemented under the guise of emergency measures.

Rees-Mogg seems to drag his young lad around everywhere with him in a junior old fogey outfit complete with tweed jacket and round glasses. I think he's just preparing him for the high political office that is his birthright.