AdamRam Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jayram said: But where are the signs of improvement? A two week break and we have gone back to a Brentford type performance. Not once this season can we say we have bossed a game or created a hatful of chances etc. The players don’t seem to understand what they are supposed to do. The football is tedious, unproductive and we are going backwards. Pep is his first season had difficulty implementing the style he wanted to play, Koop as well. Both of them had quality players at their disposal as well. PC was left with a squad that only just managed to finish 6th last year. Let’s forget the two international loans he lost, the ones that left because they didn’t want to resign for the club, the international defender he has lost through injury, the off field issues he has to deal with and a recruitment window that brought in sub standard players to patch these gaps. Instead let’s sack him, bring in another manager that will have exactly the same problems rather than give him time to see if he is up to the job once he gets the players he wants....makes sense ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edtheram Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 The lack of improvement and the consistency of certain things letting us down is shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, Amberram said: Are the players the problem? It’s all the other teams players that are the problem. The bamfords are cheating by being better than our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimmerman Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 The problem is the players not the manager We have idiots in the squad that go drink driving Transition year, avoid relegation, look at next few transfer windows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owd miner Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Financial squad value. ⚫⚪ Derby County: £47,660,000 ?⚪ Charlton Athletic: £5,670,000 ____________________________________ 19th October 2019 Charlton Athletic 3 - 0 Derby County Relegation here wi come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lagavulinram Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 49 minutes ago, BondJovi said: His first footballing managerial experience in this country. Joins the club late in pre season The pre season arranged before he joined was not suitable. Injuries. Bogle. Holmes. Marriott. Evans. Huddlestone. Keogh.. The recent after hours event. Losing the captain and our most consistent player for the whole season. Being left with a team that only just made the play offs last season despite having 3 superb loans. I am not going to say Cocu has got it all right so far. But you have to take the above into account as none of that is his fault. Would be nice for him to have a run where he can pick a consistent side. Our first ever foreign manager. Give him time and respect. +1 Its been 10 minutes! Maybe Derby could do wonders if it didnt chop and change managers. Ive had infections longer than some managers have served. With what he has had to deal with, injuries, drinkie drinkie vroom vroom crash we should give him time. We are not performing. I Hopefully this is not the slippery slope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Dunno but I'm kind of happy to go with the flow for a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 44 minutes ago, Carnero said: When did we appoint him? Cocu is our manager, so what another manager did has no bearing whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 hour ago, AndyB said: I’m a big believer in giving managers time and not rushing into sackings. I would not have sacked any of the managers at the time they were sacked since Nigel Clough. However, I am now beginning to wonder if Cocu will be able to deliver in the English Championship. I haven’t given up yet but I’m not seeing the improvements I was expecting to see. I am all for him having two more transfer windows to generate his own squad but I’m not sure he gets the English Championship and what is required to succeed in it. I hope he proves me wrong. Good thread. I was going to back Rowett for another year so I’ve no issue giving PC the time. Having said that I’ve not been to any games yet or parted with any time and money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owd miner Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 We'll be back in 21! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 52 minutes ago, Rosythram said: With out a doubt. We need to stay calm and stick with him, he will come good and Derby County FC will become the envy of the football league. Please let’s not implode. Would like a pound for all these types of posts where the poster seems to be able to confirm the future with such certainty and the they fail to materialise. Instead of without a doubt, you should have used I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Personally I think Cocu is a good manager but he is seemingly not a good fit for the club at this time. He walked into a difficult job and the club's routine lack of planning, infrastructure and sound decision making has only exacerbated the problem. Cocu needs time, but the fans' patience is already wearing thin after less than 15 competitive games in charge. That suggests that time is the one thing he probably won't get. I don't think we are a club geared towards giving a manager time. It runs right through the core of the club. From owner to players to fans. I can see Wassall being installed as caretaker manager before Christmas until the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 We are struggling that's clear.. Players seem to have forgotten how to do the most basic things like pass a ball 10 yards to a team mate.. Is the system wrong? Are the players not putting a shift in? Has Cocu got more than one strategy to win a game? Are a lot of the players not good enough? It's these questions that will be cleared up over time and ultimately decide whether Cocu was indeed the right man for the job. But one thing is for sure, you don't start a long term project and keep dismantling it every 5 minutes. Cocu must be given time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jourdan said: I can see Wassall being installed as caretaker manager before Christmas until the end of the season. I can't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilGeeWasMyIdol Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Carnero said: This doesn't prove Cocu will do this though, but it proves it can be done. Farke is probably the exception, rather than the rule. Personally I think he should be given time, we've only lost 3 in the league, just drawn too many. His squad is worse than last season and the ever present captain is out for...a long time. I think Cocu has been dealt a difficult hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbyram1983 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Don’t forget all the good young players in the u23s and u18s. Maybe some will breakthrough (sibley and Whittaker) next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Its painful. Immediately after games emotions are high. We have been rubbish but at some stage a large proportion of fans have wanted every manager i can remember out in spells Even the wonderful Frank. He had a bad spell. The form at the end of the season & the game against leeds in the playoffs makes us look back with rose tinted glasses. There was a stage when a few wanted him gone A few didn't want mac in the first place & then towards the end were willing to drive him to Newcastle ourselves. We were buzzing when Rowett went stoke but gutted at the thought when tge initially came in half way throughthe season Its just all a big overreaction. Cocu has inherited a load of overpaid rubbish. Im not excusing some of the decisions but give the man time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Cocu will surely be ringing every scout, pleading favours, looking to radically overhaul the team on a minimal budget - george burley style. even bogle was sloppy and casual today. Hopefully we haven't blown our entire budget on wazza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 If Cocu is going to do it as the title alludes to then he is definitely doing it the hard way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 We've got to stick with cocu and I think we will.....this season isn't about promotion,it really isnt,it's about our manager learning the championship and adapting to it. He needs to learn quicker though and get some more agency into his style of play. Perhaps Rooney will be the key to unlock it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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