Srg Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 On 31/03/2019 at 11:28, QuitYourJibbaJivin said: Double it at least. Kelly at Bristol went for more and isn’t as good, in my opinion. Bogle also younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Values .. wow ITK wise, It looks like Villa and Leicester are after Luton’s left back ( Justin James at 21 also a bit of a useful all rounder left and right side and has played at DM ) and figures like 7 million are seemingly real. so what is Jayden worth one wonders ? Whatever happens I hope we don’t do a Hughes and lose him for ordinary money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4derby Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 3 hours ago, jono said: Values .. wow ITK wise, It looks like Villa and Leicester are after Luton’s left back ( Justin James at 21 also a bit of a useful all rounder left and right side and has played at DM ) and figures like 7 million are seemingly real. so what is Jayden worth one wonders ? Whatever happens I hope we don’t do a Hughes and lose him for ordinary money. Not quite the same. James is a decent full back (mainly right hand side according to my Luton supporting mate), but hasn’t played above league 1 level yet. Bogle has played a full season at Champ level and held his own, particularly in big matches and against big teams. If Luton get £7m plus for James, well done them. We shouldn’t be looking to sell Bogle unless someone wants to pay silly money (we're talking £10m plus if we’re in champ next season, over £20m if in Prem) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 8 hours ago, r4derby said: Not quite the same. James is a decent full back (mainly right hand side according to my Luton supporting mate), but hasn’t played above league 1 level yet. Bogle has played a full season at Champ level and held his own, particularly in big matches and against big teams. If Luton get £7m plus for James, well done them. We shouldn’t be looking to sell Bogle unless someone wants to pay silly money (we're talking £10m plus if we’re in champ next season, over £20m if in Prem) I think you just made his point. He was saying that if James is worth £7m then Bogle has to be worth a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 10 hours ago, r4derby said: Not quite the same. James is a decent full back (mainly right hand side according to my Luton supporting mate), but hasn’t played above league 1 level yet. Bogle has played a full season at Champ level and held his own, particularly in big matches and against big teams. If Luton get £7m plus for James, well done them. We shouldn’t be looking to sell Bogle unless someone wants to pay silly money (we're talking £10m plus if we’re in champ next season, over £20m if in Prem) Yes, that was my point. I am told that he is as good left or right and has been played on technically his wrong side according to some. What I mean is a young, good young player from a wining League 1 side is worth 7 Million so Bogle must be worth a level better whatever league we are in. That 7 million for James is a useful datum point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OohMartWright Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 20 hours ago, jono said: Values .. wow ITK wise, It looks like Villa and Leicester are after Luton’s left back ( Justin James at 21 also a bit of a useful all rounder left and right side and has played at DM ) and figures like 7 million are seemingly real. so what is Jayden worth one wonders ? Whatever happens I hope we don’t do a Hughes and lose him for ordinary money. James Justin (not Justin James!) was originally a RB but was moved by Luton to LB to accommodate Jack Stacey (who most Luton fans consider to be better than Justin!) at RB. Luton have another good LB (Potts) returning from injury so would probably be delighted to bank the £7m for Justin. Having seen both of them play this season I would say that Jayden Bogle is worth SUBSTANTIALLY more than Justin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, OohMartWright said: James Justin (not Justin James!) was originally a RB but was moved by Luton to LB to accommodate Jack Stacey (who most Luton fans consider to be better than Justin!) at RB. Luton have another good LB (Potts) returning from injury so would probably be delighted to bank the £7m for Justin. Having seen both of them play this season I would say that Jayden Bogle is worth SUBSTANTIALLY more than Justin. Cheers for that. I had a long telecon with my Luton season ticket nephew who gave me all the background. He hates to see young talent go but sees his club as Burton but with more support and as such need to cash in when they can, it’s part of surviving in the lower leagues. Having been hammered by the FA and ending up playing conference Football they now have planning permissi9n for a new stadium and a the possibility a real money from youth products. Apparently He has been with then since he was 9 years old. Yep .. with you on that .. Bogle is / must be a level up from that and younger ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Bradley Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 'Brighton keen on Bogle & Clarke' http://www.skysports.com/share/11731543 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DcFc Dyycheee Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 20m and they've got themselves a deal I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I think our biggest challenge this summer will be (ideally) keeping Bogle, or getting value out of his sale. With our situation, I'm concerned we'll both lose him and not get market value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I don’t think we would get the fee we really want from Brighton - so tell them sign wisdom - English experienced and we will sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irobinson Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I wouldn't sell Bogle. - i'd have another tilt at the championship first - with him in the rebuilt team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 If we can get 20m+ sell, if not, keep. Bristol sold Lloyd Kelly, a worse and older fullback, for 13m. If we do sell him, it would sort out our issues with financial fair play for another season, however it's unlikely we'd be able to sign a replacement of the same caliber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 34 minutes ago, SaintRam said: I think our biggest challenge this summer will be (ideally) keeping Bogle, or getting value out of his sale. With our situation, I'm concerned we'll both lose him and not get market value. After the stadium sale isn't our situation a lot better now though? We're nicely placed so we won't be forced to sell our top players for just whatever we can get for them like Vydra, or sell them in a rush like Hughes to make sure the sale is in a particular financial year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cam the Ram said: After the stadium sale isn't our situation a lot better now though? We're nicely placed so we won't be forced to sell our top players for just whatever we can get for them like Vydra, or sell them in a rush like Hughes to make sure the sale is in a particular financial year I don't know enough to be honest. I don't know if the stadium sale is a one season rescue, or puts us in a long term stable position. The latter seems doubtful, with the scale of the losses we were due to make in 17/18 before the stadium sale. Yeah this season that loss should have been reduced, and hopefully it'll be slashed this season coming, but by the necessary amount? Plus it's going to leave us with a paper thin squad, so we're going to have to re-invest to some extent in the squad anyway. Regardless, I don't know our situation - and this shouldn't devolve into yet another FFP conjecture thread - I just think we'd be tempted by, say, a £10-13m offer for Bogle. And I don't think that would be market value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshfieldRam Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 If Bristol can get £13 Million for Kelly we have to get more for Bogle. I’d be annoyed if we didn’t! We do have a record though for selling our upcoming players for less than the Market Value. Will Hughes and Tom Huddlestone come to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, irobinson said: I wouldn't sell Bogle. - i'd have another tilt at the championship first - with him in the rebuilt team The only problem is we need money to rebuild the team. Unless we play the youth teams almost exclusively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HariboWest Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 For what it’s worth, my research seems to suggest that Kelly has the same agent representation as Bogle. Fortunately, it’s proven they can drive a good deal. That being said, don’t sell him. There’s not a talent in the league like him at full back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 £15m and a loan back for the season? Would prove difficult to say no to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 No surprise to see Brighton in for him. He’s undoubted premier league quality imo, one of the best fullbacks in the division, modern, agile, technical, young and intelligent, would fit all the boxes for me looking for a player to replace Bruno for them. Really started showing consistency week in week out in his all round play as well towards the end of the season. Serious young talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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