SuperDerbySuperRams Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, Carnero said: Why on earth assume that?! Very coincidental don’t you think? To not be fit to train in any first team session after 2 months off? Must have been a fun off season for him! Furthermore, if you read Jody Morris’s comments after the Mansfield game, where he said that he’s not even close to being involved, makes you assume that there’s more going on than an injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 25 minutes ago, SuperDerbySuperRams said: Very coincidental don’t you think? Of course, but I don't just assume they're lying to us. He probably does have a niggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Donnyram said: Why on earth would we want to sell Laurence?? I honestly think he will have a big part to play this season if only people would get off his back - confidence is a wonderful thing Wasn't disagreeing. I think Lawrence by virtue of being young and ours is the type of player to build around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 With Wilson mainly playing on the left and Jozefzoon mainly on the right, does this mean Lawrence will play centrally, or is he competing with Wilson? Leaving Jozefzoon competing with Bennett and Thomas for the RW spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: With Wilson mainly playing on the left and Jozefzoon mainly on the right, does this mean Lawrence will play centrally, or is he competing with Wilson? Leaving Jozefzoon competing with Bennett and Thomas for the RW spot? I think Wilson mainly plays on the right but can play on the left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 5 hours ago, ThePrisoner said: To the tune of Vengaboys... ZOON ZOON ZOON ZOON FLORIAN JOSEFZOON Then I get stuck. What'a wrong with the original? LETS SPEND THE NIGHT TOGETHER ME AND YOU FOREVER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Rample said: I'm guessing Vyds will be off in some way shape or form. Regardless, I don't think Lamps would play him as a second striker. I do think he may try him as a no. 9 but I can't see anything having changed. Martin looks a clear best bet from what we have on our books. Difficult to see anyone giving us our money back for Lawrence - maybe Norwich, Wigan or someone could surprise us, but I imagine we will persevere in the hope that this year he regains that Ipswich spell. With regards to playing 433 so far I think the fact we're currently giving game time to a surplus of midfielders and forwards is part of the reason. Wilson, Mount and Josefzoon obviously not been available. Southampton will be a better indication. Could really do with Vydra playing them off the park and them signing him the following day. Well whether we get our money back for Lawrence or not, if he isn’t in the team then we might look to sell him. Having signed two wingers, I think it will be moving him to playing him in the hole, or from the bench. Or selling him. We will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I’ve since found out it’s pronounced Yosef-zone... Highwayyyyy to the Jozefzoon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thederbyram Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, PistoldPete2 said: Well whether we get our money back for Lawrence or not, if he isn’t in the team then we might look to sell him. Having signed two wingers, I think it will be moving him to playing him in the hole, or from the bench. Or selling him. We will see. We won't have a "hole". 4-3-3 has 1 defensive midfielder, 2 midfielders pushing on, 2 wingers, and a centre forward. Lawrence will play on the left this season, but you need options on the wing and Josefzoon will be a rotational/bench option in most games, with Wilson the main man on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 5 hours ago, sage said: To Frank Sinatras Fly me to the moon Florian Josefzoon Come and play amongst the stars Come and see how football's played O In other words, ... Someone else can finish the rest. “On Jupiter and Mars...” Reminds me of a famous line of commentary the other year when Wolves had a player called Jupiter... ”long ball to Jupiter...” more befitting of Rowettball methinks ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leamram Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 22 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: To the tune of Vengaboys... ZOON ZOON ZOON ZOON FLORIAN JOSEFZOON Then I get stuck. Scoring goals for Derby FLORIAN JOSEFZOON ..easy, what do i win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: With Wilson mainly playing on the left and Jozefzoon mainly on the right, does this mean Lawrence will play centrally, or is he competing with Wilson? Leaving Jozefzoon competing with Bennett and Thomas for the RW spot? Jozefzoon to my knowledge has never played centrally. He is an out and out right winger. Wilson can play left or right, but where he has been deployed by managers suggests he is better on the left. Lawrence has played mostly centrally, being forced onto the left for us due to Vydra. His peak form for Ipswich he was in a central role. To only play 2 for all matches would be a waste of one of our marquee players. If we play just wingers I expect he would end up behind Wilson, making the odd cameo. I'd expect in a 3 if someone is out, Lawrence will shift over and someone will move into the centre (Palmer?). The whole thing is operable with 5 players and Thomas as back up, then Bennett and Gordon as his back up. Of course it's all flexible, there would be games suited to 41221, 4231, 4141 and times if he's still here to play Vydra further forward as a deep striker rather than advanced mid. I can also see him covering left forward if still here. Whatever he picks the options are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 5 hours ago, Pottig said: ZOON ZOON ZOON ZOON FLORIAN JOSEFZOON NEVER MIND THE WEATH-ER HE'LL BANG THEM IN FOR-EVER Now that makes more sense. I was trying to fit it to the vengabus is coming not boom boom boom boom. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Knowing not only one, but two Vengaboys songs well enough to make a parody.... For shame. The moment the South Stand starts singing Vengaboys I'm going to sit with the OAPs in the West Stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thederbyram Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rample said: Jozefzoon to my knowledge has never played centrally. He is an out and out right winger. Wilson can play left or right, but where he has been deployed by managers suggests he is better on the left. Lawrence has played mostly centrally, being forced onto the left for us due to Vydra. His peak form for Ipswich he was in a central role. To only play 2 for all matches would be a waste of one of our marquee players. If we play just wingers I expect he would end up behind Wilson, making the odd cameo. I'd expect in a 3 if someone is out, Lawrence will shift over and someone will move into the centre (Palmer?). The whole thing is operable with 5 players and Thomas as back up, then Bennett and Gordon as his back up. Of course it's all flexible, there would be games suited to 41221, 4231, 4141 and times if he's still here to play Vydra further forward as a deep striker rather than advanced mid. I can also see him covering left forward if still here. Whatever he picks the options are great. Lawrence spent a lot of time for Ipswich on the left actually, and played very well there. Sure he'd look good centrally, but that's just because he'd be more involved. Wilson is left footed, which means if he plays on the right he can cut in, or he could swap with Lawrence and they can attack full backs on the outside. Josefzoon won't be making the odd cameo. He'll be part of a rotation of wingers, which is necessary with a high tempo game. Wingers tend to get a lot of niggly injuries, like hamstrings etc, so it's important to use more than 2 primarily. That wouldn't make it a waste, just an effective use of options over a long season. I'd wager we will very rarely play a 3 behind the striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 21 minutes ago, Ellafella said: “On Jupiter and Mars...” Reminds me of a famous line of commentary the other year when Wolves had a player called Jupiter... ”long ball to Jupiter...” more befitting of Rowettball methinks ? He was called Mark Venus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, sage said: He was called Mark Venus. A pass to Overmars was only possible From Hudds in present squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, sage said: He was called Mark Venus. Yeah @Ellafella, you were talking out Uranus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 47 minutes ago, Pearl Ram said: Yeah @Ellafella, you were talking out Uranus. He was quite a mercurial player though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 hour ago, sage said: He was called Mark Venus. 1 hour ago, Pearl Ram said: Yeah @Ellafella, you were talking out Uranus. Cripes! Fly me to the moon., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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