needles Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 On 16/06/2017 at 14:34, ronnieronalde said: I think he'd be wasted at DM, even though that was probably his position at Ross, as soon as NC got hold of him he pushed him into an advanced role, starting out on the right of a 3 man midfield, then moving him central as his influence grew. I think to put him back into a DM role now would actually nullify a lot of his strong points. He's not a silky passer but he's good enough on the ball, his real strength is his box to box ability, he puts his foot in without being an enforcer, he can pass it without being Hoddle-esque. Where he really excels are in the timing of his runs, his finishing ability and he's more of a threat in the air than he gets credit for. I said earlier in the thread he's Bryson like, perhaps not yet as good as Bryso at his best but probably more potential to eventually be better than Craig in the long run. Having said that, I'd snap your hands off if you offered me Bryso as a swap. Definitely in my top 5 favourite NC signings ever. Sounds like Jeff Hendrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 No offers for the player at all, of course things will change at anytime between now to end of transfer window. http://m.derbytelegraph.co.uk/nigel-clough-addresses-future-of-burton-albion-midfielder-linked-with-derby-county/story-30406348-detail/story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRam Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 On 6/13/2017 at 00:15, PistoldPete2 said: Don't know much about this guy. He scored 10 goals as Dm, but I guess quite a few headers in there. We don't have anyone who can cross the ball, so he won't get many goals for us unless we improve other areas. Is is he any good as a Dm? If so he could be useful if thorne isn't fit. Whats Whelan gonna do?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valleyram Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 On 16/06/2017 at 14:34, ronnieronalde said: I think he'd be wasted at DM, even though that was probably his position at Ross, as soon as NC got hold of him he pushed him into an advanced role, starting out on the right of a 3 man midfield, then moving him central as his influence grew. I think to put him back into a DM role now would actually nullify a lot of his strong points. He's not a silky passer but he's good enough on the ball, his real strength is his box to box ability, he puts his foot in without being an enforcer, he can pass it without being Hoddle-esque. Where he really excels are in the timing of his runs, his finishing ability and he's more of a threat in the air than he gets credit for. I said earlier in the thread he's Bryson like, perhaps not yet as good as Bryso at his best but probably more potential to eventually be better than Craig in the long run. Having said that, I'd snap your hands off if you offered me Bryso as a swap. Definitely in my top 5 favourite NC signings ever. Ronnie we normally sing off the same hymn sheet but Jackson irvine if he play to he's 40 will never be as good as Bryso , watched both in Scotland and Bryso was always goin to play in England , Jackson irvine on the other hand has surprised me but nc has an eye for a player that's for sure , I'm sure Derby will see the best of a fully fit Bryso in the coming season , he seems to be a Gary Rowett type of player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 10 hours ago, valleyram said: Ronnie we normally sing off the same hymn sheet but Jackson irvine if he play to he's 40 will never be as good as Bryso , watched both in Scotland and Bryso was always goin to play in England , Jackson irvine on the other hand has surprised me but nc has an eye for a player that's for sure , I'm sure Derby will see the best of a fully fit Bryso in the coming season , he seems to be a Gary Rowett type of player I hope you're right about Bryson, but since the Burnley/improved contract fiasco, he's simply not been the same player - odd flashes of his old self, but simply not consistent enough to hold down a place. Irvine may not be as good as Bryson at his best, but he's possibly better than the version of Bryson we've seen for the past few seasons - and it's a big risk for GR to rely on a player who seems to have lost his way.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valleyram Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Gaspode said: I hope you're right about Bryson, but since the Burnley/improved contract fiasco, he's simply not been the same player - odd flashes of his old self, but simply not consistent enough to hold down a place. Irvine may not be as good as Bryson at his best, but he's possibly better than the version of Bryson we've seen for the past few seasons - and it's a big risk for GR to rely on a player who seems to have lost his way.... Maybe a run in his favourite position and staying injury free might help all I've seen is managers wanting him to sit for whatever reason as he can't do that and never will can let the shackles off him and u will see the best of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 13 minutes ago, valleyram said: Maybe a run in his favourite position and staying injury free might help all I've seen is managers wanting him to sit for whatever reason as he can't do that and never will can let the shackles off him and u will see the best of him Bryson was at his best in 2013/14 given a free role with hughes or Hendrick , and eustace or thorne. With all of those gone, ( barring a lazaerus return from thorne) then Bryson is a spent force. Johnson too. we need young hungry players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoneedshuls Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 13 hours ago, DesertRam said: Whats Whelan gonna do?? Join villa ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 3 hours ago, valleyram said: let the shackles off him and u will see the best of him Honestly, he'll hump anything that moves that lad... (ps. It's Shackell not Shackles!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 15 hours ago, valleyram said: let the shackles off him and u will see the best of him Glad you agree with me that Shackell should leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 20 hours ago, PistoldPete2 said: Bryson was at his best in 2013/14 given a free role with hughes or Hendrick , and eustace or thorne. With all of those gone, ( barring a lazaerus return from thorne) then Bryson is a spent force. Johnson too. we need young hungry players. Was Johnson ever a force for us? Dunno about these young hungry players. The way things are going we'll have whelan clogging a path for bryson to run through towards Martin who's waiting to lay off a pass from boyd who has just creaked over the half way line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxes Fan Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Irvine is playing brilliantly for Australia right now, Aussies 1-0 up against Chile in the Confederations Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 If Buxton's coming back hopefully this Aussie is coming with him. Nice swap deal for Bryson, Bent & Pearce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Parsnip said: If Buxton's coming back hopefully this Aussie is coming with him. Nice swap deal for Bryson, Bent & Pearce. Actually that won't work as Buxton & Irvine play for different clubs. Which of course I realise... now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Nixon saying Forest have a live interest in Irvine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Would be interesting if us and Forest were in for Irvine and he asked Clough who he thought he should sign for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 On 24/06/2017 at 11:09, valleyram said: all I've seen is managers wanting him to sit for whatever reason as he can't do that and never will can Not entirely true, I've seen him sat in the dugout a fair bit and he looked more than capable doing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekingofbuxton Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Looks to be a good player, probably one we could add value to as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsy1884 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 He seems like a player that would suit the team GR might be building. Depends what Burton want for him. If it's 2-3 mil then it would be worth a punt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, kingsy1884 said: He seems like a player that would suit the team GR might be building. Depends what Burton want for him. If it's 2-3 mil then it would be worth a punt. It's fine - We'll give them Bucko in exchange... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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