TommyPowell Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 11 hours ago, duncanjwitham said: But Keogh is the club captain - it's literally part of his job to be the link between the rest of the players and management... management yes board no way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 8 hours ago, TheDeadlySaul said: Selling Keogh would be awful, our only ball playing centre back. Agreed ... We don't want to play hoofball. If Hanley is worth £5 million Keogh is worth way more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 7 hours ago, Ambitious said: I think selling Keogh would hurt us a lot. Now, I'm not dead against selling him, but we need to ensure we bring in a ball-playing centre back who is better than him for the same/less money. I think it's fair to say that we don't naturally have the most talented footballing back four. Keogh has the ability to bring the ball out and is essentially our link to midfield and sometimes attack. He very, very, very rarely plays a random punt into the corner. I don't buy into the fact that Shackell and Pearce are worse than the average joe on the ball, because they're not. However, when teams are blocking channels and not allowing an 'easy' pass to be had. They don't have the ability nor craft to spot an opportunity. Keogh usually charges through the middle dragging people towards him, which creates space for others. It's mocked, but 95% of the time it works. I can't imagine Shackell charging through the lines in order to create a pass. He, and Pearce, would look at hitting a space for the midfield/forward players to fight the opposition for. I do agree with you to a point but Curtis Davies isnt too bad with the ball, also with the chances of us playing 4231 likely and hopefully Thorne back we wont really be needing our CB to be bursting up the pitch, I cant imagine Rowett as an old school defender would want that either really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Hull will be after a CB now, straight swap for Abel Hernandez sounds about fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram1964 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 10 hours ago, Ted McMinn Football Genius said: Best post I've read in a while ???? You are indeed a football genius? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamsPolls Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 11 hours ago, PodgeyRam said: I see you on their forum stirring the pot @RamsPolls As for Keogh, our best defender by a mile. Shackell and Pearce should be out the door long before Keogh goes. If they aren't I will begin to have my doubts about Rowett. I like stirring the pot I'd be happy for him to go to Sheff Wednesday provided we buy Hanley... If we don't get Hanley, then we need to keep Keogh to pair with Davies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 11 hours ago, Anag Ram said: Reckon it might be Carson Wisdom. Baird. Davies. Shackell. Hanley. Forsyth Flint. Dumic. Iorfa Donaldson Neck braces at the ready! Reclining seats at Pride Park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: Reclining seats at Pride Park Great! We could let some fireworks off to highlight the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth's left foot Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 The groundsman is currently laying turf on the clouds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Anag Ram said: Great! We could let some fireworks off to highlight the ball. It's coming down with snow on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 19 minutes ago, RamsPolls said: I like stirring the pot I'd be happy for him to go to Sheff Wednesday provided we buy Hanley... If we don't get Hanley, then we need to keep Keogh to pair with Davies. So you reckon Hanley is better than Keogh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 20 minutes ago, RamsPolls said: I like stirring the pot I'd be happy for him to go to Sheff Wednesday provided we buy Hanley... If we don't get Hanley, then we need to keep Keogh to pair with Davies. Hanley is not better than Keogh and can't play with the ball at all. Would be an awful replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Carson Wisdom, Keogh, Davies (c), Forsyth Thorne ... not gonna find a much better defensive setup than that in this division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamsPolls Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 50 minutes ago, TheDeadlySaul said: Hanley is not better than Keogh and can't play with the ball at all. Would be an awful replacement. Disagree. Why would Newcastle pay £6m for Hanley last summer and not show any interest in Keogh? Keogh is a good ball player but isn't the best defensively. Very rash in his decision making. Hanley is the opposite. Good defender at this level but like you said, not the best ball player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamsPolls Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 53 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: So you reckon Hanley is better than Keogh? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 1 minute ago, RamsPolls said: Yes. Haha haha! You've finally lost the plot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Just now, Wolfie20 said: Haha haha! You've finally lost the plot! Don't you need it to begin with to lose it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamsPolls Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: Haha haha! You've finally lost the plot! You being serious? Keogh is a very good ball player but defensively he is rash. He cannot deal with situations that he puts himself into. Hanley is one of the best centre backs in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, RamsPolls said: Disagree. Why would Newcastle pay £6m for Hanley last summer and not show any interest in Keogh? Keogh is a good ball player but isn't the best defensively. Very rash in his decision making. Hanley is the opposite. Good defender at this level but like you said, not the best ball player. Maybe because Derby wouldn't sell Keogh? There are a number of factors, they might have inquired about Keogh, however if Derby aren't willing to sell, we wouldn't let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 When the ball is dropped on top of him maybe Hanley is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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