Inglorius Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Don't understand all of the vitriol directed at Weimann with his £2 million price tag he didn't put that price tag on his head if we were daft enough to pay it then it's hardly the boys fault. Direct the vitriol at the guy at Derby stupid enough to pay that money for a patently very average player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 1 minute ago, Inglorius said: Don't understand all of the vitriol directed at Weimann with his £2 million price tag he didn't put that price tag on his head if we were daft enough to pay it then it's hardly the boys fault. Direct the vitriol at the guy at Derby stupid enough to pay that money for a patently very average player There is no vitriol. I think pity and shame are the overriding emotions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymru Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 13 minutes ago, cosmic said: You really think PC played for a draw today? You really he ever does? We did go for the win, we were dominant for large parts of tonight's game. so do you think he put his strongest team out tonight m8 i don't think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 3 minutes ago, cymru said: so do you think he put his strongest team out tonight m8 i don't think so He did against Sheffield Wednesday. And that was slow, flat and took longer than tonight to create anything. Same at Blackburn. For 42 minutes it was a team of footballers 1-0 up getting kicked to death. Red card looked inevitable for Leeds Weimann should have done better when put through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 1 minute ago, cymru said: so do you think he put his strongest team out tonight m8 i don't think so No I don't, but he easily put out an XI more than capable of winning most Championship games, including Leeds away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shang Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I'd hate to imagine the reaction if we actually lost tonight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 4 minutes ago, Shang said: I'd hate to imagine the reaction if we actually lost tonight... I think we should create threads in advance of playing Boro. Have a load of threads in the scenario that we beat them and see the jubilation. Then another set of threads where we lose and the world is coming to an end. Whatever the scenario I'm going to miss reading one lot of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinzy9 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 He reminds me of a poor mans Luke varney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I like him, he puts 110% in but he just lacks that bit of quality in the final third. Very much like Russel. Wouldn't mind us upgrading on either in Jan. I'm not greedy though, we've got more than enough to work with for the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Absolutely astonished people still do this. Every season, people latch onto a winger (players who naturally drift in and out of form) when they have a bad/average patch and attack them, then shut up when they have a good patch. And it's always far more to do with personal agendas than the actual player. You can make the exact same argument for pretty much every winger in the world outside of the likes of Ronaldo and Neymar, and even Ronaldo had a dry patch earlier this season! Ince had a dry patch when Weimann was having a good patch, now Ince is having a good patch while Weimann had a dry patch. Doesn't mean either of them are awful players, to suggest they're pointless signings for ebbing and flowing like every ******* Champiosnhip winger does is absolutely ridiculous. In 7/8 games time, Weimann will probably score a brace while Ince does f*ck all and there'll be a near identical thread about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyRam! Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 27 minutes ago, Leicester Ram said: Absolutely astonished people still do this. Every season, people latch onto a winger (players who naturally drift in and out of form) when they have a bad/average patch and attack them, then shut up when they have a good patch. And it's always far more to do with personal agendas than the actual player. You can make the exact same argument for pretty much every winger in the world outside of the likes of Ronaldo and Neymar, and even Ronaldo had a dry patch earlier this season! Ince had a dry patch when Weimann was having a good patch, now Ince is having a good patch while Weimann had a dry patch. Doesn't mean either of them are awful players, to suggest they're pointless signings for ebbing and flowing like every ******* Champiosnhip winger does is absolutely ridiculous. In 7/8 games time, Weimann will probably score a brace while Ince does f*ck all and there'll be a near identical thread about him. Dont forget i'm not actually sure i'd class weimann as a winger, i think he is quite like ince in a way, he can play on the wing it seems. But give him a chance in the middle and create a bit of space for him and he can do wonders........I reckon we'd get more out of him playing him close to martin running off him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Yes. Its very sad that some just seem to love to absolutely destroy someone with withering criticism . Its never Adi wasn't too good today or some such. No, they love to almost abuse them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor1946 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Thought it was a very good away performance,Leeds were up for bully boy tactics and the crowd got to the ref in a tense atmosphere. ,We showed character when the chips were down,,And showed we had a second gear when required A valuble point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 On 29.12.2015 at 23:45, Bris Vegas said: Definitely need an upgrade. He makes Jamie Mackie look a desirable option. Other than his work rate and tracking back, I can't see anything else that makes him good enough for the money we paid for him. He offers nothing going forward, absolutely nothing. Times his runs to the box better than anyone in our team. We just doesn't use his ability with current tactic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 1 hour ago, Dimmu said: Times his runs to the box better than anyone in our team. We just doesn't use his ability with current tactic. Times = timing of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinzy9 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Ince has had a number of quiet games but you know on his day he'll destroy the opposition. Weimann unfortunately can't, in fact apart from a few tap-ins he's done sweet fa... He works hard though, so I guess it's ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 1 minute ago, Hinzy9 said: Ince has had a number of quiet games but you know on his day he'll destroy the opposition. Weimann unfortunately can't, in fact apart from a few tap-ins he's done sweet fa... He works hard though, so I guess it's ok. The thing about Ince though is even if he has a poor game he still has the potential to produce some magic that can unlock a defence and win us a game, whereas if Russell or Weimann have a poor game they are largely ineffectual. But any team needs players like Weimann and Russell as they do put in 100% into every match and there energy can scare tired defences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Three weeks ago, Ince was a waste of money according to some, basically he wasn't bothered because he 'only performs when he's looking for a new contract'. Weimann is just going through a rough patch, and had made over 100 Premier League appearances by the time he was 24. I'm far more likely to take notice of what Paul Clement thinks than our regular messageboard muppets who have as much idea of being able to judge a player's ability as they have about astrophysics. (Bloody astrophysicist to rip me a new one or Paul Clement to explain the Lorentz Transformations in 5....4....3....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinzy9 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Can't be arsed to look but I seem to remember someone posted some statistics that showed ince did more tackles and defensive tracking runs than any other of our wide players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I've not really followed this thread but I don't think Weimann is a winger having a rough patch at all. I think he's a striker who's been shunted out wide. Like Dirk Kuyt or Podolski he'll do a job. But I'm not expecting the world from him while he's playing in this formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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