RIMBAUD Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 14 minutes ago, eddie said: Three weeks ago, Ince was a waste of money according to some, basically he wasn't bothered because he 'only performs when he's looking for a new contract'. Weimann is just going through a rough patch, and had made over 100 Premier League appearances by the time he was 24. I'm far more likely to take notice of what Paul Clement thinks than our regular messageboard muppets who have as much idea of being able to judge a player's ability as they have about astrophysics. (Bloody astrophysicist to rip me a new one or Paul Clement to explain the Lorentz Transformations in 5....4....3....) Clement knows enough about fluid dynamics, Eddie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 3 minutes ago, RIMBAUD said: Clement knows enough about fluid dynamics, Eddie... Can Giovanni Battista Venturi play midfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I don't really understand the criticism. he's doing ok if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIMBAUD Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 3 minutes ago, eddie said: Can Giovanni Battista Venturi play midfield? Would he dictate play tho'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 oh my god, weimann was the best thing since sliced bread a fortnight ago after his goal scoring exploits, now we should flog him to Barnsley for a tenner, really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 5 minutes ago, LesterRam said: oh my god, weimann was the best thing since sliced bread a fortnight ago after his goal scoring exploits, now we should flog him to Barnsley for a tenner, really? Can I hire you to do the summing up in every thread? You've nailed this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIMBAUD Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I wouldn't have a problem with us signing an out an out winger - but it's with the understanding that it's just another option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 21 minutes ago, LesterRam said: oh my god, weimann was the best thing since sliced bread a fortnight ago after his goal scoring exploits, now we should flog him to Barnsley for a tenner, really? Did the same people say those two things? Or is this just one of those football forum moments where a bunch of people said one thing and then at a different moment a separate bunch of people said something else? And then somehow everyone's a hypocrite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinzy9 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I can see this turning into another epic thread like the Connor sammon one. Pages and pages of bickering before we all agreed he was a donkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Except Weimann isn't a donkey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinzy9 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Patients, it's only page 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I love all of our wingers. That's the reason I'd like to have one more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 19 hours ago, StringerBell said: Did the same people say those two things? Or is this just one of those football forum moments where a bunch of people said one thing and then at a different moment a separate bunch of people said something else? And then somehow everyone's a hypocrite? what do you think of Weimann Stringer ? We have had this thread asking "why why weimann" which dropped rank on this forum when he started scoring then the following game he blanked and the thread rose from the ashes, the lad is 23 and has 113 premier league appearance to his name and 13 full caps, I personally feel the system and rigidity of the formation is stopping the all out attack we enjoyed under Mac but we are not shipping the goals either, swings and roundabouts!! we are top two and it couldn't be better in my eyes, what a signing Clement was, he is a passionate guy who loves bringing up his graphs and stats at every opportunity have we had two bad games back to back since he implemented his thinking into the ranks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, LesterRam said: what do you think of Weimann Stringer ? We have had this thread asking "why why weimann" which dropped rank on this forum when he started scoring then the following game he blanked and the thread rose from the ashes, the lad is 23 and has 113 premier league appearance to his name and 13 full caps, I personally feel the system and rigidity of the formation is stopping the all out attack we enjoyed under Mac but we are not shipping the goals either, swings and roundabouts!! we are top two and it couldn't be better in my eyes, what a signing Clement was, he is a passionate guy who loves bringing up his graphs and stats at every opportunity have we had two bad games back to back since he implemented his thinking into the ranks? Actually, it rose from the ashes when he scored twice, then only pottered along as his form faltered again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, sage said: Actually, it rose from the ashes when he scored twice, then only pottered along as his form faltered again. your not a fan then Sage ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 Just now, LesterRam said: your not a fan then Sage ? You could deduce that from this thread, however whilst I don't particularly rate him, his signing made no sense in terms of the formation we play. That is the bigger issue in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 56 minutes ago, LesterRam said: what do you think of Weimann Stringer ? We have had this thread asking "why why weimann" which dropped rank on this forum when he started scoring then the following game he blanked and the thread rose from the ashes, the lad is 23 and has 113 premier league appearance to his name and 13 full caps, I personally feel the system and rigidity of the formation is stopping the all out attack we enjoyed under Mac but we are not shipping the goals either, swings and roundabouts!! we are top two and it couldn't be better in my eyes, what a signing Clement was, he is a passionate guy who loves bringing up his graphs and stats at every opportunity have we had two bad games back to back since he implemented his thinking into the ranks? I've not got a strong opinion on him one way or the other. I don't think he's a bad player, but I also don't think he's a winger. His running off the ball seems good and he takes up good positions in the box. But these are things I'd primarily associate with strikers. I know you do have to run in behind and off the ball as a winger, but there are also times you need to face the fullback with the ball and take him on. I don't remember Weimann ever doing this. He usually opts to hold it up, like a striker. I also don't think he a player to get to the byline or whip in a great cross. Or having a cracking shot from distance. I'd prefer to see him in a front two. But as it is, like I said a page or two back, he'll do a job out there like a poor man's Podolski or Kuyt (2 other strikers who got shunted out wide). His work rate is terrific and he was a big part of us beating Hull. Johnny Russell is a player signed as a striker but I think he does a better impression of a winger. Inconsistent, sometimes runs into trouble - but also decent ball control in tight areas usually and has the acceleration to make up for it when he doesn't, good at running the ball out of defence (I don't think Weimann is particularly), whips in a decent cross, good acceleration to get half a yard, can have a pop from distance and gets to the byline. Plus he has many of Weimann's qualities as a striker too for when he gets in the box. All in all if everyone was fit and in form I'd have Weimann on the bench and Russell starting most games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 2 hours ago, sage said: You could deduce that from this thread, however whilst I don't particularly rate him, his signing made no sense in terms of the formation we play. That is the bigger issue in my eyes. We have played several formations, and will quite possibly play several more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, eddie said: We have played several formations, and will quite possibly play several more. We rarely play 2 up front. I don't see him being top 6 championship standard unless he's up front. He can't play there on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 2 hours ago, sage said: We rarely play 2 up front. I don't see him being top 6 championship standard unless he's up front. He can't play there on his own. I'm just not good a judge of a player to be able to say one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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