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3 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

Yeah alright then.  Were going to sue Derby for not going into admin at a time of our choosing.  Load of old tosh. 

Can’t sue us we didn’t make the decision - and they can’t sue the EFL because we can’t ???

Pure fantasy and depends any pre January takeover 

Lawrence 

Belick 

Jozwiak 

in that order 

42 minutes ago, Charlotte Ram said:

John Percy is reporting the Rams will get £100,000  as soon as this lad makes hist first team debut for Liverpool 

Wages wages wages 

What did it cost Peterborough who were 6th was it who weren’t allowed to be promoted whilst Wycombe 8th were promoted now there was legal action. 
anyway we haven’t breached yet !

58 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

If we're no longer in administration and under new ownership before the window, then we *might* not have to, but it'll depend on what the new owners are intending to do and if there's any kind of restrictions (the EFL "Business plan") on them.

If we're still in adminstration, it's fire sale of everyone with value and nothing anyone can do about it, because the club is still bust and administeators are trying to get the creditors some of their money back.

True but a player may well say no thanks I am not signing for anyone - that said most of them are out of contract next summer anyway and may profit by not leaving in January 

I have heard that he has been paying for the team Bus and team accommodation on away trips as well 

4 minutes ago, Boycie said:

A fan owned club might work non league or lower league, but not a this level.

Germany has a good idea with fans owning a big stake in all clubs, but that’s league wide.

waiting 28 days is just wasting time for a new buyer to step in.

Waiting 28 days is a waste of time but last time the 3 Amigos £3 within a second had control of the club 

Can someone please change the title of this or merge it with something else !

Anyway I am hearing that our Mr Rooney has been paying our teams travel and accommodation costs this season so far, now if that is correct some people need to give themselves a proper slap. The Bloke can’t fail at Derby now can he.

It will certainly be a very important period in our history 

What can we sell - not much it seems and the administrators may well be saying that soon enough 

Portsmouth we’re allowed to sell players outside of the transfer window so that is a worry on the pitch and it wouldn’t surprise me to see the EFL allow it to happen because they won’t want us taking points of any more sides 

if the EFL want to subtract more points then just do it now for the whole world to see - if for some sadistic reason they wanted to carry that on into next season well that just shows you what we have been dealing with in a lot of regards.

We obviously need someone to come in exceptionally quickly to save any semblance of a side on a pitch 

we better enjoy the home and away games until January because after that it looks exceptionally grim.

This should be be a disaster for the EFL - A major club relegated in September! we actually had the biggest attendance in the championship on Saturday possibly even the whole EFL if Sunderland weren’t at home and yes I know when Sheffield United are at home they will have more but the point being we are one of the biggest most high profile clubs they have and as they have openly stated they want us relegated and now they have their way - do they want us destroyed - I am sure some of them might. 

1 hour ago, Grumpy Git said:

Any idea when the extra tickets will be on sale?

When they get the money for the first lot I would suggest ?

3 hours ago, Spanish said:

I fear there is nothing in the rules for this and the EFL will be forced to enforce the penalty.  If admin does not protect us form EFL rules I don't think they will have a choice

The EFL have had a choice in every decision they have made.

1 minute ago, DavesaRam said:

He did great yesterday. He has always been good with the ball at his feet, but far too often the pass back has been terrible and put him in a tight position where he has to just get rid, instead of try to start a move off. Faffing about at the back, no matter how trendy it seems to be, is costing us.

He dealt well with crosses yesterday, and caught the ball more times than he tried to punch it. Part of the improvement maybe feedback from his girlfriend, who apparently often sits in the South Stand, and gets tickets with the away fans when we go on our travels. It is a brilliant thing to do, and with the fans getting behind him, it can only help.

It must help having two of the best centre backs in England in front of him ( sure they are older now but they know what they are doing) 

1 hour ago, Woodypecker said:

We didn't qualify for the £8.3m because the club was in embargo for breach or suspected breach of EFL rules & regulations.

Yet the money is designed to pay the taxman and now it can’t - utterly ridiculous as this is the exact reason it was offered

2 hours ago, JABBA said:

Most of these will be due to the huge bonuses paid to players for the promotion and clauses in sales the breach not really contributing to the success but rising as a result of it.

They are not counted 

I suspect I will be drinking an awful lot of beer before this one and spending most of my £37 worth of match in the toilet taking the pee 

looking forward to a good day out to support the football oaps and the Academy lads 

Again £37 for a second division game - shocking - I must be getting as old as my Bladder. 

My take on that 

He is absolutely right without covid this would never had happened but Covid has happened it is here 

we look to have failed the FFP in one year by £4 million so Potential 4pt deduction so I assume that may linger on? Will that be £4 million on following years? And more 4 point deductions - who knows as the EFL seem to double count.

we were denied the £8 million loan in January by the EFL ( premiership money) to help pay tax and NI for unexplained reasons which is a shame because now the HMRC won’t be getting that money as a nation because they will be offered let’s say 20 pence in the pound in the not to distant future.

he mentioned about us not being to extend a players contact to keep him a year longer to maybe keep his value or sell him ( we know this to be Jack Marriott) he also mentioned that another championship club lost a lot of money in a similar way - my view is that it would be Reading FC and Omar Richards who left to join Bayern Munich was it on a free) 

He mentioned that since F&P has come in only Two clubs have been promoted without breaching F&P 

He mentioned that 15 calls of interest in buying the club came in over the weekend which he believes 2-3 have the means and intent to do so 

I believe he mentioned that he still owns the stadium so if he gets anything back it may come from that and his losses are in excess of £200 million of his own money 

He said he tried and failed and was sorry that we are where we are.

He wouldn’t go into depth about the EFL at this point in time 

we’ll that’s what I heard I read others may have different opinions.

Well I definitely want to listen 

yes he’s made mistakes 

yes he will have his own opinions which is fair enough as well 

he put a lot of  Millions into DCFC 

11 minutes ago, sage said:

Yes. Turns down £2m for Buchanan and goes into administration less than 3 weeks later.

 

It sounded like the takeover walked away this week and that was that 

27 minutes ago, DCFC Kicks said:

I keep saying this but someone really needs to take a banner for Gibson when we go to the Riverside in February 

I hope no Derby county fans go to the riverside again - hit them in the pocket 

Dell have preferred status for repayment don’t they? 

If the EFL want a relegation place sorted in September it’s 21 points or more if they are remotely concerned with the integrity of the competition it will be 12 in total 

Remember they openly stated that they want us relegated so you can make your mind up  

Roos - excellent 

Byrne - defensively good with attacking as well 

jagelka - excellent bar the big blob 

Davies - well done son 

Buchanan - I thought he was excellent 

shinnie - his kind of game 

Bird - about time great goal happy birthday as well 

morrison - played well shame he missed a sitter 

Lawrence - did ok today 

Sibley - learning all the time 

Baldock - scrats  around and should probably have scored 

subs - knight - lots of covering 

jozwiak - didn’t get involved a great deal again covering like knight 

Stearman - deserved some game time and yes saw the game out 

Well done to the players the staff and the supporters today 

Before the game I actually was tearing up looking around 

Anyway let’s give some teams a football lesson this season we all know we will be in the third division next season if we are here at all.

8 minutes ago, Woodley Ram said:

So some intresting facts and a lot still left unsaid.

I cannot see why Derby would be excluded from funds that were given due to Covid, Could the £8.5m held Administration at Bay?

It is true that in the Championship Derby would have been affected more than most due to their fanbase hence bigger losses, £20m is no suprise.

I dont think that we can blame the EFL for challenging us over the valuation (not the sale) of PP  as it was larger than everyone elses. So if we lost a new owner over it then .........  

I think Gibson's role in this and the pressure he was able to bring needs looking at. No one should be able to interfere with the workings of the EFL.

We are likely to have a 12 point deduction but we can show that it was exceptional circumstances so the EFL can be forgiving due to the circumstances that they had a part in.  

You can tell that the EFL feared this would happen, they have asked Mel to committ for the year and sked for a business plan.

Onto other clubs, the likes of Stoke and Reading have enourmous overspends and that cannot be all due to Covid. They must be waiting for a 12+ point deductions. Others must be struggling so I dont think we will be alone on minus points. 

I do feel that the EFL have things to answer here and it would not suprise me if that was in court. We well overspent for a couple of years but they (EFL) have not acted in an honourable and acceptable manner.

I dont think this is over yet  

It’s interesting isn’t it, dependant on what has actually happened it might not be a surprise if MM takes a private legal case against the EFL on certain issues or indeed other owners again dependant on what we don’t know. Because now he doesn’t actually own us he can do that if he wants to.

7 minutes ago, David said:

One of these is a real football fan, the other is a wally, to put it politely. 

I now can’t want a great victory in the Ryder cup