Sparkle
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9 hours ago, Crewton said:
My gut feeling is there's allot of p*** and wind in these stories of Boro and Wycombe taking legal action, designed to put off potential buyers and drive us into liquidation. I don't believe they have a snowball in hells chance of winning a legal case, but tying us down in legal battles is another way of sucking us dry.
This is war. Make no mistake about it.
Then again we could end up in court with our policy and a judge could rule it legal and fair to use in the eyes of the law.
we could also have a perfect case against QPR in no shadow of doubt if it is proved against us, it would be mightily interesting
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2 hours ago, CocuBarmyArmy said:
The EFL need to step up here and protect us from this, no basis what so ever and it's disgusting.
He is trying to let the EFL know that they have to execute Derby with more points deduction - EFL have no balls so we will see if they tell him to go away - anyway doesn’t that show something about this nerd - it wouldn’t be so bad if Middlesbrough actually played any football and was a nice place
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1 minute ago, Eddie said:
Therein lies the rub. We failed to get promotion, and they didn't. I've thought for a long time that the only way FFP would ever 'stick' is if a 'big club' went to the wall, at which point it could be argued that the risk exceeds the reward. I never thought that it would be us, but it's looking very grim at the moment.
We wouldn’t concern the premiership
we might concern Sky TV with all the sports packages cancelled in our area if we go bust or are in league One / third division
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1 hour ago, Miggins said:
It's hard for me to understand how we could have amassed so much debt and how it wasn't picked up by regulators at the end of each financial year. How many other businesses could have carried on in this way for so long? I understand Mel's point on Saturday about COVID affecting each team disproportionately depending on parachute payments, size of club etc. and I think Derby was one of those clubs that was disproportionately affected. However I think that the main reason that we were also hit especially hard was because we already had huge impending debts and entered the pandemic with those debts hanging over us and with no money in the contingency fund. How on earth was Mel allowed to get us into this position? Did we not have top accountants at the club who could have stepped in to safeguard the future of the club? I wish HMRC had been as diligent with DCFC as it is with the rest of us! Yours in exasperation...
How can any business be able to lose £13 million pounds a year and it can be fine and dandy
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2 minutes ago, Bald Eagle's Barmy Army said:
Win our home games and we can do it. We win our home games from us making it the fortress that PP can be.
You only have to look at how many supporters turned up before the last game of the season to know we have a brilliant fan base and one that, when sticking together, we can make the difference.
Forget what’s happened in the last few years, let’s just look forward and be positive and know that we can make a difference.
I think 6 points from the next 3 games and we can dream of staying up, even with a 21 point deduction
With the best will in the world the EFL have openly stated in their communications that they want Derby county relegated - they will just add more and more points deducted on to us and possibly invent some a season after as well even if we survive as a club
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1 hour ago, Oldben said:
With the club in its current state would you refuse to move to a more stable environment, where your guaranteed to be paid
When you can walk into any other team at the end of the season because that’s when your contract ends and get a large signing on fee
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1 hour ago, Ram1988 said:
I've read that Reading are also facing a points deduction? That would help us out
It makes a mockery of the whole league
38 dead rubbers remaining
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Can’t afford any seats anyway
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1 hour ago, sawley_ram said:
We are and should always be Derby County! Changing to an awful name like “Derby City” would alienate so many people, hundreds of thousands, who like I live in Derbyshire and always follow the Rams!
We could change the team name to Duck the EFL
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3 hours ago, Half Fan Half Biscuit said:
As a taxpayer I think it’s piss-poor of HMRC to allow one football club to run up £26m of unpaid tax on its own.
They’ve consistently been taken for a ride by football clubs over the years and ought to recognise the signs by now.
We don’t know how many football clubs have huge debts
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4 hours ago, Oldben said:
Rooney meets the administrators today.
Not sure if anything good can come from that.
Assuming they ask him, what players if any can be sold.
Given the team is already almost to thin on the ground to function, and that Mel would have weighed up is there anyone left I can sell and didn't sell anyone else.
The team has zero chance of surviving relegation if they sell anyone else and if they sell with the wages they are allowed to pay who could they get on loan, assuming loan players can still be signed.
If Rooney leaves the club, who would manage the team. If a new manager were brought in at this time, then that means the club is relegated, no new manager I can think of could do what Rooney has been doing with the current team.
I also think losing Rooney would hugely demoralise the team.
If the administrators say they are planning to sell Knight, sibley, buchanan, bird.
Then I think the club has zero chance of avoiding liquidation.
What price can the club be sold for, without the auditors closing the club.
They can refuse to be sold
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Well at least sky sports will take a huge hit when we eventually get shafted - lots of cancellations at that time I suspect in this area
talking of sky sports we have been their bread and butter for the last 8 or 9 years what on earth are they going to do without us?
league one/ third division is really taking on the graveyard of major football clubs ( if we make it there)
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I am sure the EFL would prefer us to have been done before they agree on Reading punishment
if other clubs are to fail then it needs to happen by March to count this season so it’s unlikely any more will join us
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2 hours ago, jono said:
Here’s a thought EFL …. It’s only parachute clubs that really go up so whatever none parachute clubs spend, they have gained no quantifiable advantage over anyone else … so why bother with points deductions which are supposed to punish “unfair advantage” rebalance things ?
I have said for a long time all clubs accepting parachute payments should have an immediate 12 point deduction to even things up a little bit
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24 minutes ago, Bald Eagle's Barmy Army said:
We could have a full away end if they can start gifting tickets too.
I can’t wait for next Wednesday, it’s the clash of the naughty boys.
Both teams could just stand there and not move - 0-0 to highlight a total farce
then again - Derby county 45 - 45 Reading would leave us both with some serious leading goal scorers to sell ?
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26 minutes ago, SamUltraRam said:
That’s an awful lot of dead rubbers this season isn’t it
21 minutes ago, nottingram said:2/3 relegation places sorted due to off field rubbish. The beautiful game.
September people what with Derby, Reading, Parachute payment Bournemouth and Fulham the season is officially over !
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2 hours ago, atherstoneram said:
The HMRC issued a winding up order in Jan 2020, Covid didn't begin to have an impact until 13th March 2020 when the EFL decided to suspend the league so i don't see how the club can blame Covid for the HMRC situation.
January 21
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10 minutes ago, StarterForTen said:
I thought they had earned 'Crown Preference' status from April last year? That just means they get first dibs of what is in the pot after the football creditors have been paid. Probably gives them a bit more sway on the value of the CVA terms but highly unlikely to get them payment in full.
For example, Buyer offers £20m to the Administrator for the business. £10m is needed to clear the football creditors, leaving £10m to service the £30m HMRC debt and £10m unsecured creditors debt. That would mean all £10m would go to HMRC (if they were prepared to take 33p in the pound) and the unsecured creditors get bob-all.
Of course HMRC might reject the CVA terms (and as the biggest unsecured creditor that would have some sway) but they will also know that a liquidation would probably follow if they do and that would net them bob-all as well.
If the EFL had allowed us the £8 million in January the HMRC would have already had that
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I hope the Sheffield United players realise that even If they manage to beat us and get 3 points there is probably a 50/50 they won’t get to keep them if we go pop
I actually intend to go to as many fixtures as possible in case my Derby county don’t make it through this. Yes I have my season ticket and I usually go the 4-5 away games per season - Sheffield is booked in and trips to Preston and Fulham are very much in my diary and it would be great if we can sell out everywhere.
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11 hours ago, Carl Sagan said:
I presume DCFC gets no financial benefit from selling these, as the money will all go to Sheff Utd?
Of course a great following helps the bond between fans and players and keeps the spirit going in such difficult times.
We get 5% for selling the tickets
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15 hours ago, CollyerDCFC said:
Surely someone will purchase Bielik in Jan?
We have to sell him to at least pay Arsenal - before his knee goes again
Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)
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Even if the football clubs can’t sue the EFL a more wealthy supporter could in a variety of ways I suspect - the snake pit will be opened