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Are we up to date with Ravenelli?

Are we up to date with Ravenelli?

Are we up to date with Ravenelli?

Are we up to date with Ravenelli?

Are we up to date with Ravenelli?

I watched two local teams to me (Lichfield City v Nuneaton Borough) on the BBC IPlayer in the FA Cup yesterday. 
 
The quality of football wasn’t great and I can’t imagine Derby ever dropping to that level (even with Administration) but it did make me realise that despite all the doom and gloom over points deductions, administration and transfer bans there will always been a Derby for me to support. It’s just the league we’re playing in and quality of football may not be quite what we’re used to. 
 
This isn’t meant to be as negative a post as it may seem but more my way of coping with uncertainty of the future we face. What will be will be so there is nothing to be gained from me fretting over what the future holds or who’s fault it will be. I just wish it could be brought to a conclusion very soon.
COYR

I don't think it is fair to try to put @Davidin a position where he is expected to give answers.  I think we should leave him out of this.  I guess there maybe stories to tell when this all blows over, whenever that will be

Let's not forget the whole point of this forum is about providing a canvas for our opinions - we all have our own experiences, we all have our own lives, we're all different and this all results in all having our own opinions. 
So the OP was making his own opinion on how things look, you've responded with your opinion - they differ.  What I always have issue with (and yes, this is my opinion hence a strong desire to comment on the post) is that because someone disagrees, why should this then elicit a more personal attack from them - I don't think that's right or fair,  especially where retorts are clearly personal and don't look at the big picture: it's not about MEplc. 
To elaborate:
Comment: Where are these minutes from the meeting? After they were submitted back to the club we haven't heard a single thing. See above comments about stupid requests
I thought this was a reasonable statement personally - again my opinion. Why the duck hold the meeting with a select few but then hobble everyone so no-one can say anything.  Absolutely pointless, so to question it is valid I think and is in no way stupid. 
Comment: It's an absolute shambles. In your opinion
Nowt wrong with this - perfect response where you clearly disagree although obviously felt strongly enough to call it out BUT...
Comment: I've seen people respond to this charge be saying the EFL have it in for us. Yes they do
Is your opinion that they do have it in for us, perhaps no different to calling out the "absolute shambles" statement, i.e. an opinion?
Comment: No ticket office all tickets available online
Maybe so but does it work well? Is everyone able to afford the time, or have the technical skills to do this? Factually I think this is no hence the statement was fair
Comment: no mascots, really you are whining about this!!!!
It's important to some, if not you and is a statement of fact.  All teams have mascots so it's factually just one more thing the club is curtailing which will upset one element of the fanbase.
Comment: no roadrider so you can't organise your own transport
As I said at the top, big picture here.  Kids? Non-drivers? Disabled? Drivers who aren't confident to travel on their own? Pretty insular I'd suggest....obviously in my opinion! 
Comment: no communication see multiple comments above I assume when you play poker you show all the other players your hand
I don't think anyone's asking Mel to tell us everything, none of us expect that, maybe just some of what he told a select few and then told them to shut up. Or maybe just a statement of empathy and reassurance to long suffering fans. I don't see that as unfair.
Comment: I love this club. But right now I hate everything that it has become. There is always a team the other end of the A52 you can support
A bit flippant? Why would someone support the dogs who's just declared their love of the club. When you add up everything we are seeing, and being told (or not as the case may be) I'd suggest a lot of us (me included) have a lot to hate about what the club is seemingly doing right now.  Are you telling me that you're happy with where we are and everything you're seeing? If so, I take my hat off to you.  We can only cast an opinion based on what we see - constant embargoes, missed payments, no communication or explanation - nothing that supports a view of positivism about how the club is being run. 
Apologies I've rambled - I usually just smile at such posts, and leave it to other, more thick skinned members to comment, but I guess this time I felt like diving in.  Maybe just getting a speeding ticket has put me in that frame of mind!
#COYR 

I don’t know the precise reasons, calculations and what not, but Luton got done for 40+ points over 2 or 3 seasons on accounting, admin and other punishments following the back handlers to agents thing.  They ended up none league … but they fought their way back. 
 
Stuff it. As long as there is pride park and 11 players in the shirt, I am a supporter. The machinations of the “industry” get more boring by the day 

hang on to the bus though

You want a worst case scenario?
12 points for admin 12 points for '18 P&S plus 9 points aggravating factors 12 points for '19 P&S plus 9 points aggravating factors 12 points for '20 P&S plus 9 points aggravating factors 75 points deducted.

Can someone clarify for me please that, if we go into administration we are docked 12 points, and a further 9 points (if EFL wins regarding our accounts etc...). That makes a gigantic minus 21 points! Is this correct or not?

As I mentioned on another thread, been in the home end loads of times and even in the away end at the BBG a few times.
The one that stands out was Millwall at the Old Den. Big terracing on three sides. I am crap with dates but it would have been around the time I gat married, 87ish maybe 86. We won 1-0, I remember that much.
Millwall, more so then, was a dodge place to go. Went with a mate who was Spurs and we ended up around the halfway line in with the home fans. Anyway, as with most London grounds, as soon as I opened my gob nobody really gave a damn. Just another cockney really. Anyway we score and I blow my cover. Expected to get absolutely mullered but got exactly the opposite. Top people, had the micky taken out of me but nothing more. Never to this day have I had any problems at Millwall, even the Play Off semi. We Londerners must look after ourselves. 
Went to the BBG on many occasions with the visiting London team. Went on the QPR supporters train once and ended up with them all afternoon. 3-3 I think it was, late goals. No problems then either.
BITD, my mates were all Spurs and we used to mix up where we went. Derby one week, Spurs then next. The lad I used to go to Spurs was, was a proper nutcase. Ended up in jail but that's another story. They played Palace once at the Lane and he always went in with the away supporters in the Park Lane. Would always end up in some sort of mix up.. Game over, we leave the ground and we are clocked by a load of Spurs as we leave the Park Lane.. Chewy (as we used to call him, was a unit), anyway the Spurs lot assume we are Palace (I hate Palace, Chewy was more Spurs than anyone I know) and all of a sudden all hell breaks loose down the High Road. 4 of us ended up through a butchers window, broken glass everywhere. Lucky as that we did not get decapitated. 
So good and bad experiences. Be respectful and even at the most intimidating of places and you have no problem.  

Was in Arsenal's North Bank with an Arsenal season ticket holder mate of mine when we drew 2 -2 and Sturridge scored a screamer. When he scored i shot up from my seat but held in my scream. Mate told me to sit down as I was getting scowls from the natives. As i did not have any 'colours on' they must have thought I was annoyed with Derby scoring. Rest of match had a stupid grin on my face. Brilliant times!?
 

Was in Arsenal's North Bank with an Arsenal season ticket holder mate of mine when we drew 2 -2 and Sturridge scored a screamer. When he scored i shot up from my seat but held in my scream. Mate told me to sit down as I was getting scowls from the natives. As i did not have any 'colours on' they must have thought I was annoyed with Derby scoring. Rest of match had a stupid grin on my face. Brilliant times!?
 

Was in Arsenal's North Bank with an Arsenal season ticket holder mate of mine when we drew 2 -2 and Sturridge scored a screamer. When he scored i shot up from my seat but held in my scream. Mate told me to sit down as I was getting scowls from the natives. As i did not have any 'colours on' they must have thought I was annoyed with Derby scoring. Rest of match had a stupid grin on my face. Brilliant times!?
 

Whilst no one actually knows, it seems extremely likely that the EFL are wanting to force ( Bully) Derby into accepting a points deduction whilst we quite rightly say get stuffed. If the EFL had reason in black and white to impose a points deduction they would have done it and surely by now, if that points deduction came in we have the right to appeal it and so we should. It’s worth noting that Reading FC have completely blown a hole through P&S and should have a well laid out punishment but yet nothing has happened.
The Paranoid might believe that they want us to agree a points deduction before Reading get their lighter punishment and just say we agreed to ours.
whilst the likes of Stoke city may well have been getting rid of the unwanted they should have blown through P&S yet they down valued the whole squad and blamed Covid and appear to be getting away with that and I suspect an awful lot of other clubs in the championship are busy hiding bad news but consistent punishment is simply not going to be happening as we are the main target of the publicity whilst we haven’t actually been as bad as some others despite what sits on our so called crime sheet.
Anyway we continue to support our team and hope for the best.

Liz has always followed the Rams since she opened Pride Park. Once a ?…

Prescient!
Come on you Rams!
They're all trying to get a kick in. They can duck off. We all must stand together.

Exactly @TigerTedd it’s not the owners, it’s not the players and it’s not the managers. It is we who are Derby County through thick and thin, we have always stepped up when our backs are against the wall COYR ??

To Clarify:
Tickets for both Boro AND Forest went on sale as follows:
Stage 1: From 10am Wednesday 11th August to 2020/21 Season Ticket Holders and 2019/20 Season Ticket Holders (their usual seat location is now reserved)
Stage 2: From 10am Saturday 14th August to DCFC Members
Stage 3: From 10am Monday 16th August to all supporters with a Derby County Fan ID
 
2020/21 & 2019/20 Season Ticket Holders have their seats reserved for both fixtures. Your reservation will be released 48 hours before Kick-off if you have not already purchased your seat.
 
 
Please note that online tickets will go off sale 2 hours before kick-off.
Ergo, Nottingham Forest 12.30pm KO – Tickets off sale at 10.30am Sat 28th August
 
Qualifying ST Holders should click on the "RESERVATIONS" Button to claim their usual seat... "Free of charge"...  (which will be reserved exclusively for them until Thursday 12:30pm).  DO NOT CLICK "BUY"!
Others click on the "BUY" Button, as usual.
 
As ST seats are still reserved, and unavailable until Thursday, it's currently showing only 549 seats available to buy.
Nobody knows at this stage just how many ST seats will go unclaimed, and be released for general sale at 12:30pm on Thursday.
Nobody knows at this stage whether unclaimed ST seats are/will be due to death (including but not limited to natural causes, Covid, RTA (Own fault or third party), organ failure (pick an organ, any organ), murder/assassination, boredom, or disease from a sole-attended toilet cubicle), feeling a tad under the weather, a bit parky out for this time of year, holidays (Abroad and/or staycation), disillusionment with Mel/Wayne/Others and/or a combination thereof, too early for kick off, forgetfulness, stupidity, halfness of fanacity, shirt's in the wash, DIY, pressure of espousal thumb, financial struggles (including but not limited to loss of job, reduced hours/pay, extramarital nocturnal habits, child maintenance obligations, Just Eat obligations, vehicle repair costs, victim of theft/robbery/burglary), or change of allegiance to other team(s). 
 
 
FAQ's here... https://www.dcfc.co.uk/page/middlesbrough-forest-faqs
Buy (Or claim ST seats) here... https://www.dcfc.co.uk/toptix/en-gb/categories/home

Great to get 3 points from a polished performance. Even better when the Red Dogs have lost too! Hope their fans get over their stiff necks! Up the Rams!!!!

I have been to all the games home and away and pre season games plus two under 23 games, I am in Hull now for tonight’s game and have got my tickets for the the next two games, have I lost interest, probably not.

Just rang Hull ticket office.Can pay on day must be cash and £3 additional booking fee so £36 adult but have concessions for youngsters,OAP etc so we’re now a 4 going up to cheer on the lads tomorrow ?

For what its worth my take on this is that Mel was always going to leave submitting the accounts until 18th. It could be because initially he wanted to ensure we were still going to play in the Championship this season.I suspect though there is something in the accounts that both parties aren't willing to back down on!  I expect that if the EFL cannot find anything wrong when they are re-submitted (I am sceptical about this) then they are not going to make a decision until after the transfer window closes, thus hoping we will have to go with the players we have and then possibly relegation. Mel & Pearce unfortunately are losing many DCFC fans by the lack of communication. This week is possibly one of the most pivitol weeks in DCFC's recent history. I hope for the best (and I am a positive chap) but I feel we will not be increasing our squad until January next year (as long as Mel can supply the EFL with evidence he can continue running the club financially until the end of the season).