Tombo

5pm today, you heard it here first

Don't waste any time dissecting the minutae of this particular game, just revel in another game won and another 3 points collected.

I could write essays on the minute-by-minute analysis but it isn't worth it. On balance we deserved to win, and we did.

Sorry, am I in the wrong thread?

Or he's crap

I've watched the goal back a number of times and I can't see a single Derby player who does his job at that corner. Nobody came out of that well

Wishing all the best for Megan and hope she makes a speedy recovery.

I have to say, when I read about the injury stopping play and the game abandoned I did fear something really awful knowing her history. Glad in some ways it wasn't anything of that nature, awful as the injury is

How come the game was abandoned though? There's been some real horror injuries in football where play carries on once they have been treated, I wouldn't have expected the game to be abandoned for an injury like this.

(Please do not mistake this for any Barton-esque nonsense, I'm just not sure where the decision to call the game off came from)

As a Collins doubter, I think the time is coming to end the James Collins slander.

He's not super prolific and I don't think his reputation thanks him for being consistently a pretty good striker for the level he is playing at, rather than blowing hot and cold like most strikers.

He doesn't tend to go on streaks that showcase what he's all about, and then disappear off the boil. He just shows up, works hard, and posts his numbers of the course of a season.

I do think he needs to make his presence known in games more however. A bit more physical, a bit more active, a bit more of a nuisance for defenders. He's good at bringing teammates into play, and pretty excellent at making room for his teammates to make runs, but he doesn't show that often enough.

That said, primary job is to score goals and he's doing that this year

A million times better than it was the other year when we were in administration

It's January btw. How's your lawn holding up?

I still believe. We've still got a game in hand on them

What do you guys think

Always a laugh when this thread gets resurrected after a bad result. I think the funniest thing is that it usually gets resurrected by a pro-Warne poster getting angry at what they imagine someone else might be thinking

"Grrr... I bet this thread will be swarming with non-believers any moment"

*hits submit reply to bump to the top of the forum*

I am fully prepared to admit I am/was a Warne doubter. Things have changed, which I didn't think they would.

I know you'll say "ah! I see! As soon as the results start coming in, you change your tune!! I am very smart!!"

Yes, of course. Because it was and always has been about results and performance. I don't like sprouts but if they suddenly started tasting like chocolate cake I may be inclined to revise my dislike of them.

I am still a long-termist, and I don't believe that what this team was doing under Warne at the start of the season and pretty much all of last season works, and nor do I believe it to be the key to success. Warne however, to his credit, seems to have huge willing to change things that don't work, against everything he had planned on doing. Almost no other football manager I've ever seen does this. Managers and coaches are generally "pigheaded" for want of a better phrase and believe so strongly in their vision that they will double down in the face of failure. Just look at Ange Postecoglou at Spurs who recently spoke about this and said that he will stick to his guns no matter what. If it gets him the sack, then he just wasn't the guy for the job. That mentality is common with football managers and is largely where my doubts about Warne stemmed from.

But he has changed it. We move with far more tempo, play through the middle a little more, mix up our play going long and short at different intervals to find a way to win. I don't know whether it is encouraging for a football manager to be so free and easy with their philosophy and have the ability to say "OK, I got it wrong. We're going to chuck a lot of this in the bin and go back to the drawing board", or whether a manager should stick to their vision no matter what.

Postecoglou described it as a lose-lose situation for a football manager. If fans are calling for a certain change, and you cave to that pressure, you will not get the credit if it goes well. If it goes badly, then you will have sacrificed your philosophy at a cheap price and you will still get the sack. Better to stick to what you believe in and fall on your sword, no?

Regardless, Warne deserves the credit for turning it around and changing things. I will grant him that because it is his credit to have. Takes a lot to swallow your pride and change your mind. However, he also shares the blame for having it wrong in the first place, and the question has to be asked what he will do next if what we are doing now stops working. Will he switch it up again? Can he make the necessary tweaks if it's not something he necessarily believes in? Can he get the players to buy in if it is crystal clear that he hasn't even fully bought in?

Ok look...I'll cut a long story short.

We're playing good football and getting good results and I'm happy.

Switched off after 2-0. Can't imagine I'm missing much. Went straight for a bath with the toaster but realised after an hour or so I forgot to plug it in so ended up coming back here.

What have I missed? Are we still rubbish?

Don't "overmaths" it would be a good start to get where we need to go. In the only mathematics that matter we're close to the top 2.

Less flippantly, consistency will be key and sticking to the fast paced football that has got us results. In the games where we've dropped points, we quite often fail to impose our game and keep searching for space out wide that isn't there. It's predictable and lacking invention

In summary, do what we've done in the first half of the season just a tiny bit better and we're good

3 hours ago, therams69 said:

Absolutely important! 😉

End of the day the SCG is there to make things better for us all. Its a liaison between the club and fanbase as much as possible. Not everyone is represented but as much as possible. 

I didn't vote for you. You don't represent me

Don't think it was her best game, but Wycombe were stealing an inch everywhere they could today from minute one and she fell for it every time first half.

I did feel like early second half it was a bit "boy who cried wolf" because it didn't wash with her after a while. It was perfect in fact for the only natural defensive midfielder we have in Fornah. He managed to get physical early second half and the referee gave them nothing.

That said, their discipline did not improve and she failed to stamp down on it.

The really upsetting thing is that I'm pretty sure we're going to be hearing from Joey Barton shortly. That's worse than anything else

I've always been an advocate of safe standing and in some ways the swiftness of this move is admirable but I can see it causing some issues.

If you bought a seat in the South Upper, you have every right to use it without having to concern yourself with a rail now blocking your view. I know people around you in that seat were probably stood up blocking your view anyway, but it's a bit different when the club actively encourage that.

I think it could have waited until the end of the season and I hope people affected are moved or even upgraded where applicable to a different seat free of charge.

Nonetheless, that's the only negative thing I have to say. Hopefully this will positively impact atmospheres, even if its only a temporary boost of having the new shiny thing to use

42 minutes ago, Alty_Ram said:

Likewise. I totally appreciate that it is a personal opinion Ambitious, but I personally don't feel that multiple interventions every game, (however long they are) and potential overturning of decisions after-the-fact where goals have been celebrated or whatever, do anything other than negatively impact the flow of the game and I think that is a huge element of the experience for me. The knowledge that you can just get on and enjoy your goal celebration after a glance at the officials is part of my enjoyment of a game and I'd prefer not to sacrifice that to attempt to forensically second guess the officials decisions.

Ultimately I just don't like the idea that say last season's game at Port Vale where there was so much going on in that move for the late winner would be pored over to look for an errant kneecap somewhere in the buildup. I think that fundamentally I just don't care enough that every decision is 100% correct if it negatively impacts the game for me to achieve it. As long as any error is an honest mistake then I can live with it. I bet that almost legendary playoff game between Leicester and Watford would fall foul of something if you went back over that whole bonkers passage for play from the Knockaert penalty to Deeney's winner. As I say, I totally appreciate that its a personal preference though. I'm not 'right', you're not 'wrong'.

For the record I was 100% behind goal line technology as it just does its thing (99.999999% of the time)

I take your point about those big moments maybe having something in them to be disallowed if you look deep enough etc but the point is really that if a foul was committed then it shouldn't count, doesn't matter how legendary or iconic the moment.

If this technology had existed a handful of decades earlier, England would not have won the World Cup. Also, Maradona would have had a red card for a deliberate handball. Henry's handball would not have counted.

It depends if you think that is the right call or not. If you'd prefer to keep those moments as part of the game, then fine, but that isn't competitive sport. You might as well watch the Harlem Globetrotters

In some ways I hope we do get Forest U21s. Think it would get a good attendance and would be good for revenue, and I think it would be a fun game to watch because the Forest kids are certain to give us a good game regardless. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

In many other ways, please god please can we not draw them

Love to see him get sued over this

I'd bet everything I own that someone has attended a board meeting in the past 12 months who has Mel's number in their phone. It hardly means they are feeding anything back to him

Why would Mel care? He's not here anymore, he has no financial interest in the club anymore. Pouring through the books of a business he used to run for no reason is one hell of a strange hobby

Hugely sad news.

I always loved the energy he would muster up for the most banal midweek winter evening game. He would come here and write paragraphs of prose on how we should turn Pride Park into a fortress and sing our hearts out and show the lads we support them and then after that we'll go on a title charge etc etc

In the nicest way possible, you'd be thinking "steady on there mate, it's only Peterborough at Home!" But it meant that much to him. Every single game. He never took a single game of football for granted. It was his passion and he gave it his heart and soul, and he never ever took it for granted. 

I like to think I'm a passionate Rams fan but I'm a mere armchair casual in comparison.

4 goals in League 2 if I'm reading correctly?

"In fairness to the lads, this isn't an easy place to come and I thought we created enough but we were just that little bit off the pace. You know on another day Bird smashes that one top corner and we're in Disneyland"

Ok