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That was a proper backs to the wall performance. 
Davies and Jags may be the oldest central defenders in the world, but we couldn't have done that without them.  
Special mention must go to Roos who was my man of the match. I never thought he would be able to withstand that amount of pressure. 

Roos certainly had his weetabix, his wife’s weetabix, his kids weetabix and half his streets weetabix before he turned up tonight. 
played like he was possessed 

say what you like about Rooney but he has this team playing for him that is 100% sure...brilliant..

Good point. Not a pretty watch, but WBA have so many quality players for this division.
Roos haters can log off for a while. He earned that point for us.

They scored from a couple of mistakes, a poor back pass and an unlucky deflection into a players path. They didn't even make their own luck.

Prefacing this by saying I have no insider info and have heard nothing
But if I was in a situation where I felt the EFL were being unreasonable and trying to force us to accept sanctions with seemingly no reason I would fight it - However if I was also trying to repair relationships with the EFL and show good faith to them I would be doing it in private - I wouldn't be shouting about it, I wouldn't be telling the fans how unreasonable the EFL are being and I wouldn't even make a single comment which could be construed by the EFL as being negative/aggravating 
It's frustrating for us not hearing anything - But I don't blame Morris for not saying anything - I think if he were to come out and let everyone know what the hold up is I suspect it would out the EFLs back up and make them dig their heels in further

I think you’re being over generous to the club here.
I have had a great seat on the half way line for many years and been prepared to pay a premium for it. Would I swap that for a seat looking at the corner flag for the same price? No chance.
I agree free RAMS TV was an unexpected bonus last year, I’m not sure why they needed to do that?!

The model for Championship football is "you'll get tons of money if you make it to the premier league" which is obviously not a healthy one. The only alternative model is "accept you are a lower league club, and have lower league players or sell to fund" - there's not a model for competetive and sustainable. Even the much lauded Bretford were on a sell to fund model, they made it work, but you can't run a whole system on the basis of everyone selling to everyone else, Brentofrd only made it work by selling to clubs chancing on the premier league dream, if every other club was trying to pull the same as Brentford, the market wouldnt be what it was for Brentofrd.
The economics of football are hopeless, the championship is a good example of how broken they are, and DCFC are an example of what happens if you fail. Take all the moral hand wringing out of it (for i do believe a lot of it is partizan and somewhat flexible), Derby's main crime was to fail. If we'd succeeded apart from a few grumbles, we'd have been welcomed to the Prem and talk would only be of the team that did it.
 
 
 

It’s hard to argue against anyone saying “Mel doesn’t really care anymore”. I’ve tried to defend him, but he’s currently looking like the kind of owner we used to think the like of Abramovic was… a bored rich man wanting a toy. He’s now lost commitment. Probably has a starving Christmas puppy somewhere. 
 
feeling decidedly annoyed for Rooney now. 

If anything Rooney has shown over his career, it is fighting spirit. Although I wouldn't blame him walking away, I think he wouldn't want to show any form of weakness. Maybe just Maybe, Rooney has his integrity and want's to keep that intact and will not let the fans down

I hope if they have fallen out it doesn’t lead to Rooney walking away. Before the summer I wanted him gone but right now, if he was to leave, I think that could be the worst thing to happen (bar a significant points deduction). He’s clearly building a pattern of play and a team spirit, long may that part of what’s happening at the club right now continue. (Everything around it needs to change ASAP) 

Why would we have any faith whatsoever that our transfer debts will be paid when;
A)We have failed to pay them in the first place 
B) Our current inability to pay for everything else we are charged with.
There are reasons why we haven't paid the debt,what's changed?
Have we suddenly had a massive cash injection that's going to make it all go away and pay our bills?
 

Is that supposed to make anyone feel better? I am old school. Pay your debts as they fall due. So many posters are getting worked up about P&S calculations and amortisation. Bugger all that. Morris has run up debts in the name of Derby County - HMRC, Cocu, Keogh, now some transfer fees. Pay people what they are owed.

Yeah I thought the sub was going to be for either Sibley or Morrison both of whom looked knackered. Jozwiak still looked bright at that point. 

I thought he was very unfortunate to be substituted this afternoon.  Morrison had exhausted himself first half (he was everywhere).
Jozwiak was excellent. 

Well he probably reacted because his balls were trodden on.
But when it comes to: was it a foul? the player is the last person in the country to express a view, because he was on his back looking at the sky at the time of the alleged offence.
 
The slow motion is damning but I think @angieramgot it right. He didn’t intentionally stamp. At the most he avoided an opportunity not to land on the guys’ cahones. Don’t think that’s a red card or even a foul. This is not a tickling contest
 
Thinking about it I’m not sure it was even a direct hit.  If you had 90 kgs of Scotsman land from height directly on both or even one baalock, with studs, I think you’d be the proud owner of quite a thin waffle. Your reaction would be rather different. 
yes, Fozzy will probably cop it but don’t think he should. If anyone on this forum thinks he’s the type to stamp intentionally on gonads, I’d be surprised   Even gumps gonads 
thought Fozzy had a pretty good game in fact esp given that he was leading the charge on Tuesday. Especially THAT pass  
 

We threw it away
We threw it awa - ay
We're Derby County 
We threw it away.
Strange how a couple of seasons ago I used to get all manner of rollickings because of my dissatisfaction with the match officials, and I did tone it down a bit. But now I hardly need to say a word, because people have started to cotton on to what the officials get up to. And for the last couple of seasons we have been so poor that the ref's decisions have been irrelevant.
Today, however, we are the architects of our own downfall. Forest were really, really poor and were there for the taking, and but for a few better decisions with the final ball - Lawrence not putting Joswiack through on goal being a major one - we would have been out of sight by half time. But second half only Forest came back out of the changing rooms. We were lackadaisical and sloppy and half-arsed for quite a way into the second half. Yes Hughton did make a couple of changes, cutting of the supply lines through the first two phases, and pressing our back line to make them play back to Roos. Yes his distribution wasn't good today, but mot of the time he was put under huge pressure by the awful back passes. And Rooney singularly failed to change things. We kept getting pressed and closed down like this last season, and eventually learned to stop faffing about at the back. And again it wasn't working today, but we kept on insisting on doing it until late on in the game. If it doesn't work, try something else, for goodness sake. So having shown what a rabble Forest are, we let them improve to the point of looking like a poor team.
But if the match officials had done their job things would have turned out differently. I have watched the Sky highlights, and Fozzy does get his foot onto the Forest player's wedding tackle, but no way was that intentional. Apart from the fact that Fozzy isn't nasty enough to even swat a fly, he wasn't even looking, so no way did he deliberately place his foot there. Apparently Sky were blathering on about it for ages afterwards. And despite showing the Worrall handball in the highlights, they didn't give it much attention. It was blatantly clear that he knew exactly what he was doing, and there were two Derby players in line to receive the ball. Definite red card. Definite penalty. But they didn't show the blatant foul on Sibley when he would have through on goal in the first half. Yet again, a definite red card. Neither did they show the all-in-wrestling move on Davies towards the end of the second half. That it happened while the ball wasn't moving doesn't matter as it is serious foul play in the penalty area, and the corner had actually been taken by the time that Davies hit the floor. 
In the end, we threw the points away because of our dozy lack of effort in the second half, but most definitely the ref cost us two points today. WITHOUT A DOUBT. And no, I don't normally shout! In addition, he couldn't wait to yellow card Derby players, some of which technically being fully deserved, yet he failed to card Forest players for repeat offences throughout the match. And what was Joswaick booked for when he was the one who had been wrestled to the ground? That was almost as bad as giving Middlesborough a free-kick when one of their players brought his team mate down last week. It is easy to understand people thinking that there are special EFL directives on how to officiate at Derby County matches.
The positives are the way Derby are playing now. At the end of last season, and with all the off-pitch problems, I thought we would be playing even worse than we were then, so our play at the moment is a revelation. After such a poor performance a few matches ago, Joswiack has really improved, and Max Bird has become the Max Bird we all knew and loved.
Keep it going, you Rams. It has become a pleasure to watch you again, instead of just supporting you regardless. Thank you!

I’m surprised at the number of posts in the match thread that seem a bit down. Totally get it was only a draw against our local rivals, mediocre rivals at that. First half though we pretty much bossed it and were far more inventive and creative. Had we got the rub with a better ref, a penalty given or had Stretton just connected sweeter from the brilliance of Sibley, we would have comfortably won; because no way would that poor Forest team have scored twice.
We don’t seem comfortable one in front at the minute, always seems a ricket lurking. Yet under the circumstances of everything of the pitch, the glimpses we are seeing from the nucleus of this team is very encouraging. Rooney is slowly evolving this team into a decent one. He’s honest in his assessments and to give him more credit appreciates the backing the fans are giving right now.
As much as not winning is a bit deflating, there’s a fair few reasons for optimism in this team under Rooney; he’s slowly winning me back over.

Anyone who thought that was a deliberate stamp obviously doesn't know Fozzy.
Know your players.

It's a shame people can only form their opinions on players based on what Sky pundits (who are paid to create talking points) and slow motion replays tell them.
If you look at Fozzy's "stamp" in real time, he is just trying to extricate himself from the tangle. Not looking, no intent but they insist on making a meal of it.
Similarly the Forest equaliser in real time - appalling marking, crisp shot. Roos did well to nearly get down to it and many keepers (Marshall included) wouldn't have got anywhere near. But play it in slo-mo, it's suddenly an "error". 

Game changed when Lawrence went off. Stretton and Buchanan came and and did well, but Lawrence was the best player on the pitch today.
Without more squad options we will struggle to see out games comfortably and it is hard for Rooney to make positive attacking substitutions with what he has available.
But local derbies aren’t always a true reflection of form and I believe we can kick on after the international break and secure more points.
Shout out to Jozwiak who had another good game for us going forward, yeah he made a couple of errors here and there, but overall he was a real threat and made problems for the Forest defence.

Fozzy was brilliant by the way 

For all we know he may be encouraged to post like this to bring in more youthful fans. My teenagers love it all. Not aimed at most of us I think! Also they were/are probably being advised to stay home lots because of covid risks. Innocent fun for his age. Leave him alone for goodness sake. Better than him being in the press falling drunk or worse out of nightclubs, crashing cars drunk or being caught in dubious hotel rooms with scantily clad women......