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We sit 2nd in the league but I genuinely believe any half competent manager would have had us all bar promoted by now with the amount of points everyone else below us keeps dropping. The scenes on here when we limp into the playoffs and get dumped out in the semis will be quite something. How many years left on his contract? Wake me up when its run out or Clowes grows a pair. 

Top analysis already.

We've got our best men working on it 

Fatigue - for the footballers in the squad I imagine it’s tiring playing Warnes Way both physically and mentally- I feel most of are players are not naturally comfortable with the style of play but are doing a good job trying 
It’s always hard being asked to play one way when you like to play another whatever level you play at - I imagine Bird and Hourahine would rather play more football but are being asked to follow the plan 
I think if Warne mixed it up a little more tactically he’d get us top but I think teams are working us out - so cmon Warney let’s play some tica taca down the middle 😎

That would be easier if it was a s*** performance in isolation but how many s*** performances have we had recently? How often have we actually looked good?
 
I’m certainly not panicking but neither am I filled with confidence that even if we retain our play off place and continue to be on the fringes of the autos (both of which I think we will) we’ll start to look like a good team. Generally speaking, I only get to watch the limited highlights of the other promotion contenders. Maybe week in week out they’re not much better and my expectations are too high. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I think it’s a bit of both, but it’s exposed by poor game management. I think for the last few games it’s probably been the issue, but last night really showed it. We’d win the ball and Wilson or NML were running into blind alleys where they were doubled up on. Bird and Hourihane were passing 10 yards ahead of a man trying to make things happen quick rather than holding onto the ball and maybe trying to make Reading chase. There is room for that in Warneball despite what people think. We were predictable in what we wanted to do and erratic with how we did it because we had no way of slowing the game down.
We miss Nyambe, I think that’s the big one and most obvious. We didn’t look poor against Peterborough whereas in the games since we haven’t been anywhere near as convincing. Nyambe has a bit of composure and can find himself in space with the ball. Smith is another one who i think right now we miss. Yes hes a bit of a sideways passer and not the most exciting but we probably need a someone who is steady right now and isnt going to lose the ball with a wayward pass. o

He doesn't deserve to be called a charlatan or gym teacher, that's very harsh. We can't argue that he is very successful at this level of football. With this budget and calibre of players, we should be a top 3 team in this league comfortably regardless of manager. And we are challenging for promotion based on our position and points.
I'm not sure why I can't warm to Warne though. Is it because I have been used to watching a certain style of football for years and now we have gone back to good old fashioned "hit it wide and cross it"? I don't think he is maximising the best out of the squad and financial resources at his disposal. There is a sense when I watch the team we are winning purely because we have better players, nothing that Warne is doing tactically to win us matches. It feels like the bare minimum to win and a number of supporters don't want bare minimum. We should be dominating and the team are not doing it regularly. The league is there for the taking and we keep missing opportunities. 

Yes, but we do have a plan b. More crosses.

I did say a while back I'd give him until Christmas. Scarily we're nearly there.
An inability to change tactics
An inability to play to our strengths
No trust in some of the youngsters
Looking like he's losing (lost) some of the dressing room
We're only as high up as we are due to the fact most other teams are absolute tripe. 
Not sure I want to wait until Christmas.

I think it's fairly clear at this point that he just isn't the right person to lead us to where we need to be. Ipswich spent a bit longer in League One, but they built up with a good young manager and a good style of football and have adapted well to the league above. I have no data to back this up, but generally the pragmatic sides that get up don't seem to adapt as well. 

I have some very sad news this evening.  Daniel (B4) died earlier this week. He was just 38.
As you know, he has been battling numerous health conditions for a long time, but always remained cheerful  and was the most loyal supporter of his beloved Rams, home and away.
He was at the match at Crewe and gave his full support as always. 
Daniel leaves behind a grieving dad, mum and sister. Our thoughts go out to them and we only hope they get a little comfort from knowing how well loved Daniel is by all who know him. 
Here are a couple of photos that his dad agreed could be shared. I'm sure many of you have others, as Daniel loved a selfie at the game.
David is hoping to arrange a more fitting tribute in time, but for now please raise a glass in his memory and a good Derby win today. I am sure that's what Daniel would have been doing tonight.
 

No shocks here, great manager and still young. Clowes made a huge mistake getting rid.

He’s had over a year and gone backwards. This isn’t a Clement type situation where the manager is sacked after 10 games and only a few points off the top 
also will cost Clowes more in the long run with lost revenue. We’re losing out on some cup money here, league cup already gone 

ITV mics seemed to all go silent except for one which picked up a single man shout "Paul Warne, your football is s***, f*** off" - almost as if they'd planned it. Nice to see the ITVX sound operator is also on this forum.

Don’t worry, he’s been backed and allowed to bring players into the club in January 😂 🤢 

Is there a crowdfunder set up to pay off Warne’s contract?

It’s a very sad situation. I feel the players and the coaching staff have an us against them mentality (Derby supporters being the them) and it’s just toxic. 
Look at the fallout from the game today and I could make an argument for Paul Warne to be one of the most hated managers of this club in my lifetime and probably the most hated manager of the past 20 years. I can only think of John Gregory and Phil Brown as worse situations. I don’t think Jewell got it this bad, certainly didn’t have this level of animosity towards him at the time from memory, in my opinion. 
I think any connection between the fans and Warne is well and truly sullied. Warne is waiting for a payout from Clowes and in the meantime the atmosphere at the club continues to get worse. We are looking at a complete rebuild next summer, again, because of our short-term approach (albeit under restrictions) so the commercial strength of this club, the fans, should be considered. A League One Paul Warne’s Derby County kicks off next season to an opening crowd below 20,000 - in my opinion. 

That was an embarrassment, his position is now completely untenable. Please Derby do it today, we need someone in by Tuesday.
 

Personally I’m still in the pro-Warne camp.
We will win 3-0 on Tuesday and the fans will be singing Warne’s name for the right reasons again.

He has to go for me regardless! The aim this year was top 2. We are in a terrible league this year with distinctly average teams in the division. The very fact Fornah made his 1st touch in the 14th minute speaks volumes to me…. Bypass the midfield…. Get as many crosses in as possible and hope for the best. 
 
There’s no guile, no patterns of play just end to end garbage. Shrewsbury were by far the better team yesterday and seeing Curtis Nelson launch every throw in into the box made me think “is this all we have got?” 
 
Come on Clowes! Let’s get John Eustace in, play Bird as a holding midfielder and let’s get marching up the division! 

Spot on.  I can't imagine who we could appoint as manager for the football to be less easy on the eye.  We're useless at passing football now and we aren't even any good at being more direct or physical.  We did win the ball in their half a fair few times yesterday so maybe that is one area that you could say Warne has improved.  Its nowhere near making up for all the things we are now worse at though.

Even Peterborough and Blackpool, we've simply taken every chance and they have missed and hit the woodwork. 
When was the last time we really played well? I hope you've got a good memory.

I was Warne in right until this last few games. We're just not seeing any improvement against teams who are happy to keep the game tight and make it a physical encounter. Until we can roll these teams over we're going nowhere.
44 points from the last 31 games in Division 3 (since 1 Feb) is unacceptable for this club.
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He's had over a year and we seem to be getting worse. My patience has gone at only getting 1 point out of 6 against Cheltenham and Shrewsbury.

I was the same.  I voted not even under any pressure to go or something but not now. Trudge to home games from Cambs with no enthusiasm other than to support team as ever. I was at neither Posh nor Blackpool but comments on here from non-reactionary posters with no agenda suggested score lines papered over issues. Warne's reaction to criticism has also not been great and cemented my views. Just want him gone as the club's spirit is draining away