StockholmRam

On 31/08/2021 at 22:19, Wistaston Ram said:

Although he played in more important games, I remember Peter Shilton almost single handed keeping Newcastle out at St James Park.

Arthur Cox ran straight to him after the game. Best goalkeeping display he had ever seen which is really something considering Arthur was on the bench in the 1973 FA Cup final when Jim Montgomergy kept Leeds at bay all afternoon. 

No Rams TV tonight? 

46 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said:

Agree totally on the shinnie bird point 

they’re just simply not good enough together 

they are about as average as it comes and would fair no better in league one 

First half resembled a non league match from both teams. 

The defending from Derby in injury time would not look out of place in Derby Taverners leagues. 

This is pretty much a first from me after all these years on the site. Its a very rare venture into commenting on the matchday thread. 

I dont usually comment because im too emotionally involved in the outcome and get far too knee jerk in my post match reactions with either a win or a loss. 

Huge hug to all my fellow Rams fans right now. A pandemic to deal with, total lock down for most so the excitement of finally getting out and about and for some even going to a stadium to watch a game. 

And what do we get? Dross.. utter dross. Today was a bit of a final straw for me and I feel a need to comment. 

Its actually truly shambolic. Us older ones have seen sustainable shambolic performances before so we know it when we see it. 

For example... the goal kicks that now Curtis takes sideways to Roos. A cunning plan of extraordinary measures.. or just admitting our goal keeper is a better kicker than our defenders.

Why.... WHY have we got 4 holding midfielders?!!! Ravel, Billy Backwards, Graham ” The Trap ” Shinnie and Capt Tom all played there today. Its feckin retarded. I dont even understand where this particular ” plan” comes from. You would assume that Rooney remembers how they set up at United in his playing career. Cant remember Scholes, Butt, Beckham and Cantona all playing holding mid...at the same time...in the same game. You would also assume Rooney and side kick watch other games both live and on telly. I cant recall one team in the history of modern football playing 4 holding mids! This plan we have must be genius huh?

Lawrence being made captain!! Again... I assume they reckon giving him leadership responsibility will up his game.

Tell you what a leader does. When we get a penalty in a pre season friendly, the leader figures out its a good idea to give the chance to score to young Stretton. Try to up the lads confidence and get his goal scoring for first team up and running. But no... our leader decides its a good time to show off and take a fancy peno. 

I could go on for hours. Its just too painful in relative terms. They are even laughing at us! 

Again.huge hug to you all. Try to enjoy the rest of the weekend. 

Us older ones also remember a team being put together of players you didnt know or had hardly ever heard of in the late 60s who went on to conquer the land. We can dream. 

Enjoy B4 mate. Ive never been to that ground still. Hope we can grab all the points too.

16 hours ago, ollycutts1982 said:

You’re missing what went before. A throw in near their corner flag, the default ‘must play backwards’ mentality back to the half way line, back to Roos, terrible kick by him, then the poor conceding of a free kick. 
 

If you’re going to pull up one player pull up the build up to it. All to mention too this was in the 43min. That is poor game management in my opinion. 

Didnt miss the build up at all. Thread is about Shinnie and regardless of what poo play went on leading up to the moment I have highlighted, it was still abysmal play for this level.

1 hour ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

No, I suggest he's saying limited ability.

Correct. Good heart and pro for sure. But that is not always enough. 

Just watching tonight v Salford how much more intelligent positions young Hutchinson picks up.

On Saturday at 1-0 up...and just before their equalizer. Ball comes into Shinnie out wide and his attempts to control it but giving it away leading to Curtis giving the free kick away... looked like Sunday morning football. Not just in ability but in braincells too. 

We have too many players last season making bad decisions during games. Far too many for this level of football. 

4 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said:

I am assuming this is today? What time is it usually held.

First game of the season you would expect the manager has some sort of rallying cry for the fans, although this year's rallying cry may be a little tougher. 

I'm just very interested to hear what he says.

I can help here. If he speaks for ten minutes then he will say ” Erm” for 9 minutes out of the 10. 

8 minutes ago, Rev said:

Did you bury it with the body?

Shhhh 

1 hour ago, Dan_Ram said:

https://twitter.com/dcfcofficial/status/1423287767191068675?s=21

 

Derby have released training photos with all the triallists in and all smiling. Makes me wonder if Nixon is full of Bull like usual or if those photos were taken yesterday.

Theres a photo of my ex missus smiling somewhere if i dig deep enough.

1 hour ago, duncanjwitham said:

You see a lot of football fans who like to watch the game but seem to have no actual understanding of it at all. The kind of person that would say things like "Bradley Johnson is great, let's sign him", "Clough should never have sold Shackell", "We haven't had a decent right back since Wisdom left", "Blackman is top of the scoring charts, let's buy him", "Wayne Rooney is still a great player", "Nigel Pearson did a great job at Leicester, he'd be great here too".  It honestly feels like we're being run by one of those types.

You are describing 99% of football supporters I have ever sat next to or near... for 50 years. 

2 hours ago, Bris Vegas said:

Can anyone remember during the Mac years when we had a ‘What the opposition are saying’ thread and it was full of opposition fans gushing over our team and the way we had built the 2013-14, 2014-15 sides?

I wonder what those same fans are thinking now. 

Incredible how we went from that to this. Only one man responsible for it all. 

 

Tommy Docherty started it all...

23 hours ago, Kingpin said:

I was. Were you in the home end then? pen was the opposite end to away. 

I was with Rams fans... so I could have let time convince me the penalty was infront of where we were sitting.

And also, confession time, we had gone to the game with a lass I fancied, so my attention wasnt all that I suspect.

7 hours ago, Charlotte Ram said:

Charlie George only took 5 penalties for the Rams

But the 2 v Real Madrid count as x 100 each. Sublime. If it wasnt for Youtube I swear that I had dreamed that game.

On 02/08/2021 at 00:21, AndyinLiverpool said:

Saunders had one saved by Niall Quinn, which leaves quite a big blot on his copy book.

I was there right behind the goal at Maine Road. My mate turned around to me as Quinn saved and said ” We are down then”!

Thoroughly miserable season all round.

4 hours ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

It's the politics isn't it, that stops gb. 

Basically, once the individual home nations were recognised by fifa as "countries"  back in the 1950s, we haven't been allowed by the Olympic committee to field a mens gb side. 

Until London 2012, where we made a special application. 

I read around that time that the reason gb men wasn't pushed harder was concern that fifa would revoke the individual nations membership. 

Bizarrely, the same does not seem to be the case for the women who seem to compete happily as gb and then England Scotland Wales etc in wifa events. 

I dont think Fifa can revoke the individual nations membership. Its pretty set in stone as we bailed them out the financial cart many moons ago.

16 hours ago, Boycie said:

Wow that great news, I wish the footy bus stopped at the bottom of my road! Well jealous.

Been trying to get that bus to come to Stockholm for 25 years.

2 hours ago, Stagtime said:

We had a handy player from Wigan play for us at West’s (Brisbane) in 1985, Andy Platt and one of our best players ended his playing career at Wigan as well as coaching them, Adrian Lam.

Its on my bucket list to come over to Australia one day and watch NRL and some Ashes Cricket too.

2 hours ago, Eddie said:

That side from the early 90's with Shaun Edwards at his imperious peak was utterly outstanding - Tuigamala, Chariots, Billy Whizz, Dennis Betts, Andy Farrell etc etc.

Ive been lucky enough to watch a number of great Wigan sides...the early 90s team was as you say incredibly good.

I loved the Radlinski, Connolly, Paul, Iro brothers era too. 

Ive a Man City mate in Sweden who said before Man City v Wigan FA cup final ” so lovely that a small town like Wigan gets a day out at Wembley” to which I answered that there is no other town in England knows its way to wembley better than Wigan.

2 hours ago, Stagtime said:

Specialist sides mate. You’ll find they play in the World’s Rugby 7s and it’s really a standalone comp. They play anywhere from Bogoata to Scandinavia all year round with the Hong Kong 7s the biggest round. A lot quicker game than Union or league and I know of only one league player crossing over (Jarred Haynes) and he was only a bench player for Fiji.

Hows John Bateman going at Wigan this year? We’re really missing him at the Raiders this season.

Injured since end of May as are two or three more. Tough season for Lam and our young squad.

Platt was a hell of a player in his day.

From memory Dallaglio and Mils Mulliana have won world cups at both 7s and XV Union.

1 minute ago, BucksRam said:

Yeah you're right.  Although it follows union rules the play is more akin to Rugby League. I too followed Wigan during their golden era of Edwards, Offiah, Radlinski, Betts, Conolly, Farrell & Billy Wizz.

We have much in common on the sporting front then. Ive followed Wigan since late 70s and continue to do so. 

Favourite player ever is Joe Lydon and best player I have seen in either code is Andy Farrell with Jason Robinson close 2nd.

Problem solved for next Olympics then. We just pick Bateman, Gildart, Ryan Hall, Makinson, Ratchford, Bibby, Powell. Job done. 

2 hours ago, Eddie said:

My sanity left me a long time ago, otherwise I wouldn't be posting on here ? . Seriously, I can't even describe myself as a fan any more with any honesty. I stopped going to away matches a few years ago following a couple of 'incidents', and I gave up my season ticket two years ago.

Don't get me wrong - I still love the club with a passion and I'm desperate for them to do well, but I just don't feel 'comfortable' any more. Perhaps things will change in the future - who knows?

Ahhh Eddie mate... you are as much of a fan as the next person in my book. You invest your soul into a club, which you have obviously done for a very long time. You dont have to be there in the stadium to cry, bleed and go on the annual rollercoaster.

Eddie is our best fan by miles. At his age, the journey he has been on...mind boggles that he still has a modicom of sanity left. 

2 hours ago, BucksRam said:

Nowhere near an expert but basically the English (and Welsh now I think) Premier Union run a 7s competition every year, from which you'll see the likes of Norton and Bibby picked from.  It is therefore based on union rules rather than league. 

7s however is now seen as a specialty as the play is so different from 15-a-side union.  Many of the players therefore become specialists and play far less for their respective 15s teams.  7s players tend to be fitter, leaner (including the props as scrums aren't really contested similar to that in Rugby League), faster and are also generally more skillful as things like offloads and quick hands are needed more in 7s.   

7s has become more detached from 15s in recent years and I think is now seen as a separate sport entirely from 15s. Many rugby clubs now run 7s teams from junior level alongside their main team.  

Hope that helps.

Awesome. Thanks Bucks.

I watch both codes eagerly but never seen too much 7s. 

Asked the same question earlier elsewhere and have been told that years ago in the yearly Middlesex 7s competition, Wigan RLFC entered a team ( Edwards, Offiah, Radlinski era) and totally walked it. Makes sense really as from what I see its far more suited for League players.