Jump to content

StarterForTen

Member
  • Posts

    1,091
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Posts posted by StarterForTen

  1. 8 minutes ago, Betty Swollocks said:

    Showing my age now, but I remember Arthur Cox selling our prized asset Kevin Wilson in the old Div 3 to Ipswich.

    Fans were shocked, but the money we got, allowed Cox to buy the likes of Geriant Williams and Gary MIcklewhite.

    I suppose, if intentions are good at board level, then we have to trust the manager to do his stuff.?

    Spot on. Wilson was sold to Ipswich, and Arthur signed Gregory, Micklewhite, George Williams and Ross MacLaren with the money.

    If Warney pulls that off this month then he is truly Midas.

  2. 3 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

    If we are in for Rhodes and he was quibbling for two weeks over a couple of thousand a week after 10 years of averaging top dollar championship wages, he's probably not the guy for the job.  Leave him on Huddersfield's bench in that case and move along

    I fear you have been reading too many romantic novels this summer… ALL players are guns for hire and largely at any club for the pay cheques. I doubt Rhodes - or any of this summer’s new recruits for that matter - see playing for Derby as an honour.

    And the ‘quibbling’ is more likely over £500k - the difference between his contract at Huddersfield and his likely salary for the coming season elsewhere. 

  3. Bear in mind Huddersfield still had parachute payments propping them up when Rhodes signed them as a free agent in 2021. And he joined them in May, meaning his deal was all lined up well in advance; he wasn’t scrabbling for a club as deadline day approached. All points to a sizeable salary.

    But then we did sign Hourihane from a Premier League club last summer, so we can’t be offering peanuts either. 

  4. 45 minutes ago, Donnyram said:

    Should be an easy one to resolve….. example numbers only;

    Rhodes on £8k per week salary 

    Derby only able to pay £4k per week

    Huddersfield pay Rhodes off at £4k per week saving £4k per week over the year 

    Rhodes maintains £8k per week salary equivalent and has the chance to play football 

    win win win 🤷‍♂️

    Or perhaps (using your example numbers)….

    Derby pay £3k but over 2 years

    Hudds pay equivalent of £3k for 1 year 

    Rhodes makes more over 2 years than he would staying at Hudds for remainder of his contract. 

  5. 1 hour ago, Millenniumram said:

    Anything due will have been paid. Anything still due (because of Mel’s ludicrous set up of transfer fees) will have been factored into the budget. Neither will take up any money received for Knight and Bielik.

    How do you know how the budget has been allocated? Costs are costs and income is income; how each pot is allocated is irrelevant. The forward commitments have to be met by the club not by David Clowse personally though, of course, as the owner it his responsibility to cover shortfalls as he sees fit. That might include selling players.

  6. 11 minutes ago, Millenniumram said:

    That’s literally been mentioned about 1000 times over the last year. It was paid off when we left admin.

    Not sure that's strictly true. I suspect there is an acceptance of the liability and commitment to pay it off, as per the payment schedules.

    Football debts were included in the whole cost of exiting administration but that may still have included committed future payments rather being settled by one very large cheque.

  7. If the club were to sign Rhodes - to give us three strikers in him, Collins and Washington - it would be very rare (if ever) that all three are on the pitch at the same time. What is more likely (given a two up top formation) is that any two of those three are on the pitch for virtually every minute of league football next season. That equates to 8,280 minutes of match time between them.

    If the trio contributed one goal between them for every 200 minutes of match time played, that equates to 41 league goals over the season - that's eight more than McGoldrick and Collins achieved last season. 

    Point of this is that instead of getting hooked up on the taste of the individual ingredients, lets concentrate on the taste of the cake... and let the coaching team get on and bake it!

  8. Free agents may not require a transfer fee to another team but they most certainly aren’t without costs. The fact that we’ve been able to pay agent fees this summer is probably the major factor in bringing in the players we have so far. I don’t know (obviously) but it would not surprise me if half of the Knight fee has already been spent on the recruitment to date.

    A ‘competitive budget’ also does not translate to a ‘by far the biggest’ budget - possibly just puts in the top six in the division. Theoretically that should make the club capable of winning promotion as the Chairman said. 

  9. 28 minutes ago, r4derby said:

    While I agree with most of this, it’s worth remembering what a club offers a player is more than wages/financial. It’s the facilities that they will work in every day. It’s the size of the ground and fans. It’s the stature of the club. It’s opportunities to showcase their talent. In all of those, Derby offer a very competitive option, as well as they finances not being bad compared to the league (and some in the league above!)

    I don’t expect us to overspend on any 1 player, but we can offer something to most players 

    All true. But - finances aside - most players look to play at the highest level possible and we (as a fan collective) would like the club to be signing players that are either currently at, or are being linked with, Championship teams. I reckon it is going to need those options to be closed off before we become an attractive proposition.

    There aren't many Championship tiddlers this coming season, which doesn't help our cause in terms of wage competitiveness. Though that said, we have taken a number of players from that tier already this season so we are in with a chance.

  10. 16 minutes ago, deanoakaram4life said:

    Would have been a good option instead of Washington, but I really think that we need that stellar striker signing with experience of getting goals in either league 1 or the championship. Matty Godden would be my choice.

    We're going to need to be patient if we are to land a 'stellar striker' as its highly likely they will have aspirations further up the football food chain. We will not make (or aren't allowed to make) blow-you-out-of-the-water offers for players any more so I suspect we will only sign a player like Godden if other 'better' options fall by the way side for him.

    I would not be surprised if any further big impact signings don't come until the last week of August.

  11. 12 minutes ago, SamUltraRam said:

    I'm actually pretty sure that we need 2 full backs on each side as their job this season will involve running and running until they are out of gas and being replaced by the other full backs

    Totally agree. Wing backs this season are like the two wide attackers in Steve Mac’s team. They were often replaced after a 65minute shift of relentless workload.

    Perhaps NML/Barkhuizen will be the extras for that role for the last 30 mins of games, especially at home?

  12. 1 minute ago, Magicman said:

    Sibley remains limited by his early performances and not finding a spot he can secure over the last 3 years. I think the 10 role is where he is best suited .

    I don't think he has the speed of thought needed for that position; nor the pace to recover from a ponderous first touch. TBH, I've thought  for some time that he would be better suited to a deeper lying midfield role.

    I think he gets a lot of stick for losing the ball too much, but then he is one of the very few who will take a risk to break the line and that comes with the danger of possession turnover. I just don't think he's quote got it and very few managers have built any lasting trust in him.

  13. On 10/07/2023 at 10:06, JJH said:

    We never had a deal agreed with Bolton, the expectation was that they would meet the £250k we wanted, but they fell short of that.

    Crikey, if we've paid nowt for him just how bad was Bolton's offer then??!

    Still say that move collapsed when the Mighty Rams became a destination option as part of the Knight negotiations.

  14. 9 hours ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

    Local news report from a couple of weeks back suggests it was to do with the clubs hitting a stumbling block on an aspect of the deal, not an injury or anything.

    https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/23612650.bolton-wanderers-deal-delay-bristol-city-man-kane-wilson/

    That could well be the time when Derby made their play for him and he had a sudden change of heart perhaps?

×
×
  • Create New...