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I don’t get how any fan of a club outside the top 6 would ever consider giving SKY their money.

Before you start, It’s up to you how you spend your money, but I just don’t get it myself.

30 minutes ago, Bob The Badger said:

If you're talking about the F A Cup quarter final (and I was there too), then that took place 4 years after that album was released.

Half the fans in the country have claimed it was them, but the only thing certain it was taken in the 70s from an old BBC sound affects record and probably wasn't Derby fans.

But I guess it could have been.

Yeah I know, I worked out later that it couldn’t have been 84 as they’d split up well before then.

(It’s a different picture on the BBC sound effects album btw)

2 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

I think it's away at Chelsea

Also on this sound effects home to Arsenal in 1973- eerily similar

https://www.discogs.com/release/2937697-No-Artist-Sound-Effects-No-9/image/SW1hZ2U6MTA4NzMzNDY=

I realised while walking to the match that they’d already split up by Plymouth away, so couldn’t have been that one unless they had a time machine.

19 minutes ago, curb said:

I listened to that last night, great days.

I never realised that pic in the bottom rh corner is Derby away at Plymouth (I was there as well).

1 hour ago, i-Ram said:

I was at the point you are at about 20 years ago. I rarely watch any Prem or Euro football. I care not a jot about Chelsea or Citeh. My interest is limited to Derby, and a little to Fulham who my boy supports. So for me, if the worst came to the worst, and I don’t think it will, my interest will remain exactly the same if Derby end up in the Conference, or L2. By which I mean I will go to the games I want to, follow from afar, track everything which is important with my club, and ultimately be buried (or burnt) with my scarf. Up the Rams. Duck the EFL.

P.S. weren’t these our fans on the Sound Effects album? Great album by the way.

 

 

I listened to that last night, great days.

43 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said:

Can't believe how taken in by him I was. It literally took us entering administration before I started to smell the coffee. Even then I thought that perhaps it was out of desperation at the situation with the EFL and there was some method to the madness. Gilt and varnish hides a multitude of sins they say and sadly, that's never been truer than with Morris. If I met him now I'd be seriously hard pushed not to throat punch the Bamford. It's a strange feeling to find someone I once genuinely respected so utterly repugnant a mere handful of months later. 

I’ve thought about what I’d do if I ever met him as well. It would be extremely difficult to restrain oneself.

Not that it’s ever a possibility mind, he’s not likely to be at a house party in Chadd, and I’m never likely to find myself in a Lamborghini showroom.

4 minutes ago, San Fran Van Rams said:

The whole Ebosele debacle is shocking and seems to be completely counterproductive in supporting the admin process... losing such a talented player for free when he could have been locked down to a contract and potentially sold to support the financing of the club's debts is madness. Another EFL rooster up in my eyes - how can they not see this kind of double punishment only serves to push the club further into oblivion.

The other terrible thing with Ebosele is that the English game is losing another fantastic young talent to foreign leagues... yes Festy is Irish, but surely we want to retain such talent to play in the EPL/EFL as he's the kind of players fans pay money to watch...

Don’t worry, he’ll be playing in the EFL next season, at a club that’s virtually guaranteed to go up thanks to parachute payments.

Hope that makes you feel better, it doesn’t me.

32 minutes ago, Anag Ram said:

I read about frustration at not getting things done but if the two bidders are offering less than is needed to meet the requirements of the EFL and creditors then I don’t see what else can be done.

I’m sure Quantuma will want to avoid a points deduction situation.

I also don’t want a Derby County that is despised for not paying its bills, especially to smaller businesses.

It’s enormously vexing day after day to come on here to no news, particularly as the resolution of the Middlesbrough situation was seen as a turning point.

I think it has affected the players and the fans that were packing Pride Park now show signs of resignation.

I think the takeover will be at the end of the season as many predicted it would be.

DCFC will survive but there are more tough days ahead.

We’re already despised for not paying our bills, even if a buyer came in now and cleared our debts completely there would still be the perception that we don’t pay our bills, and other fans will use that as another stick to abuse us with, whether we like it or not, that’s what MM’s done to us. 

51 minutes ago, Gaspode said:

I'm certainly drifiting in that direction - I can cope with dropping down to Leage One (I've said before, the actual league is not that important to me if I can watch my team putting in the necessary effort, a bit of skill and more wins than losses) - not sure however that I could keep going if we're being 'owned' by the EFL for another 2 seasons with their pettiness and business plan combined with yet another season subject to penalty points....

Starting again in league 2 would be like doffing our cap and saying yes sir no sir thank you EFL sir, when in reality they’ve killed us off but want to keep the income we generate. 

I might be a bit strange on my views, but at the moment I think I’d prefer a complete fresh start in whatever national league we could get in. I realise most won’t follow, but the ones that do would be the ones there to support a Derby FC, even if it is only a few hundred. 
Going down to league 1 with another points deduction feels like a slow death, starting again in League 2 would be like accepting the EFL destroy us but want to keep our income so we’d have to humbly accept their generosity in allowing us to stay. 
starting again in the National League North could be an exciting adventure, you never know. 

16 hours ago, twelveincher said:

 and obviously… Gary Teale.

He used to be poo, but then he was alright.

5 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said:

There's a throwback....did you mean 3rd Division North 

Is it not the third division?

All this new fangled League 1 League 2 BS, Say what you see!

5 minutes ago, KBB said:

Hard to disagree with any of that. It's the hope that kills you. The only thing I believe is that the situation we find ourselves in has done more to unite the fan base in the last 4 or 5 months then anything I have seen at the club.

Give it a couple of seasons of mid table 3rd division and they’ll all be moaning minnies again

17 minutes ago, RipleyRich said:

Yep Quantuma have released lots of information, including an article about the change in HMRC rules and titled something along the lines of "Are Football Clubs Worth Saving Anymore"

That's enough to set alarm bells ringing for me.

Oh and if it's of interest:

I attended my first match at the Baseball Ground in 1974.

I looked after the Gas Infrastructure at the Baseball Ground for several years and became good friends with the old groundsman, John Dodsley.

I managed the Gas installation at Pride Park.

As a junior football coach, I  spent 2 years working with the Academy when it was based at Repton School and ran joint coaching sessions with Eric McManus and other Academy Coaches.

I have no desire to see the demise of Derby County.

 

‘74?
Youre just a whippersnapper ?

41 minutes ago, Alty_Ram said:

Gets my back up when the usual suspects fans are straight onto that twitter 'news' saying that 'They(we)' we are obviously up to no good and need punishing (again) somehow. Do they actually have the faintest idea what Administration is ? A company has come in and taken over the temporary running of club and there is not a thing we can do about it. As fans, players and coaching team we all want this resolved as soon as is humanly possible because we're utterly sick of the delay, uncertainty and general helplessness. However the club is being run by a 3rd party with the sole interests of the entity that appointed them, that's how it works.

These morons can't seem to separate an irrational and fanatical hatred of DCFC with something completely out of our power. WR and the boys turn up and do what they can on the pitch and us fans support them as best we can, that's it.. end of story. All the finances, admin and PR of the club are the sole responsibility of the Administrators. We don't in effect have a club at the moment we have someone else in charge who doesn't care about football or fans or frankly any of this, they just want the best settlement for who they represent. That isn't necessarily a criticism, just the reality of our desperate situation.

These ill-informed fans of other clubs just need to realise that there isn't some secret Satan-worshipping DCFC 'elites' laughing and cackling in a boardroom in PP, there are just some administrators... and they'd sell the turf from under the players boots if they thought it would squeeze a bit more cash out for their client. Nothing, absolutely noting that is happening is DCFCs 'fault' because there is no DCFC as such and won't be until such time as someone actually buys us and takes over running of it. Until then this is 100% the Administrators show.

Yes, it’s very odd being on the wrong end of it, the only ones who seem to have any empathy are those who have been through similar themselves, although you do sometimes get the odd one or two who see the bigger picture, but they get shouted down pretty quickly.

Id also say there was no way we could have done anything about it when Morris was in charge either, you’re never going to get an angry mob marching on the stadium demanding their owner stop spending money on players. IIRC there were many times questions were raised at the fan forums about the amortisation policy, but we were assured it was all above board (and I believe they genuinely thought it was), then by the time of the stadium sale Morris had pretty much gone to ground and we didn’t really have a voice any more, although plenty were against it on the forums.

5 minutes ago, i-Ram said:

You still studying, or is this view as a result of a few months work/business experience?  How many times have you sang Duck the EFL in the last few months. I am all for Q treating them with total disdain.

Agreed, but while they hold the league membership and can apparently take it away from the club on a whim, it’s probably best to at least pay lip service to them until we’re out of the mire.

10 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said:

70s haircuts….. what were you all thinking? 

We’re the champions of England!

5 minutes ago, twelveincher said:

He’s quite far down the road with Preston now by the looks of it

Is it just me or is that bloke in the red underpants a bit off putting?

1 minute ago, Turk Thrust said:

There’s a thing called Google, Hinton, and if you type in “why is it called toon army” you get the answer that it’s the Geordie pronunciation of “town” ?

And they all go doon the toon, why aye man, bonnie lad.

2 hours ago, Andrew3000 said:

He looked pacy, tricky, strong enough and was direct, meaning he wasn't afraid to take opportunities to cross or shoot, acting decisively but not rashly.  A good option off the bench for sure.

Imagine the big sigh of relief by the full back as Ebosele gets taken off, only to see Ebeowei running at him.

If they don’t put up enough to meet the EFL creditor limits then we still get taken over but lose another 15 points next season and everyone calls us cheats for ever more.
On the plus side we get to have another exciting relegation miracle season again next season.

4 minutes ago, Curtains said:

Do we think Ashley would be told the amount and details of the other bids .

IMO the answer is no .

So waiting to see if you could get a Harold Steptoe deal is ridiculous 

The administrators job is to get as much money as they can to repay creditors, so it would be in the interests of creditors if they started a bidding war/auction. If Mike Ashley wants the club then tell him how much the others have bid and see if he wants it more.

then go back to the others and tell them what the highest bid is.

4 minutes ago, PistoldPete said:

The whole stadium was singing at the end. I honestly cannot remember anything like it.

I wish it could be like that all the time.

13 minutes ago, Woodypecker said:

Couldn't you apply a straight-line amortisation yet still arrive at an end-of-contract value? Must the contract always arrive at £0.00? It doesn't work like that for business assets like plant, buildings, fixtures....

Buy a player for £3 million over a three-year contract, amortise him for £750k each year = £2,250 'depreciation'; £750 ERV

Out of all this, I still cannot see why a player's registration should be valueless at the end of a contract with his club. 

But then, this is football, sometimes 'beyond statute'.

 

If the player doesn’t re-sign for you then his contract is worthless, but if he re-signs for another two years then he has no value for those two years in the accounts. So you could argue that his amortisation should be spread over 6 years, but then up until the point of him re-signing you wouldn’t know that. However we were tagging on an extra years option to players like Darren Bent, which meant that at the end of the actual contract we knew that we could still have him for another year, in effect we always gave them the extra year because of the amortisation, not because he was any use to us on the pitch.

3 hours ago, BoroWill said:

Yeah, except he didn't, did he?

Yeah, no, except he did, didn’t he?