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17 minutes ago, Eatonram said:

I wouldn't stop supporting them....would you?

No, I’d find it more interesting.

1 hour ago, Eatonram said:

The Club leaving Pride Park would be a mistake we would rue for the next 20 years.

I have no problem it being leased/rented. Owning the stadium is fairly secondary IMO opinion as long as it is our "home" and we have legal protections over being always able to play the

A phoenix club playing in the conference north would massively reduce the attendances.

Home games with a couple of thousand in a 30,000 stadium would do more to kill off any interest than leaving PPS would IMO.

1 minute ago, plymouthram said:

I reckon the other business people (The bidders) are playing Russian roulette with him. They want to buy the club and they want the stadium in the deal. Mel is pulling the strings with the Aministrators who he chose and obviously is after the best deal. The stumbling block for the possible new owners is also the other debts. They know if Mel does not sell the club and the Rams are liquidated he has a large stadium with no football team to use it. I would'nt be surprised if Appleby or Ashley get a cheap purchase due to Mel needing to save face and save his beloved club. There is no plan B. Or is there, is he part of the alleged 3rd bidding consortium.

His beloved club?

Would you like to review and edit that comment?

1 hour ago, Archied said:

Thinking about it if the choice is a new afc derby playing at pride park or the rescue of derby county fc our historic club I’ve followed through thick and thin rebuilding and having to play somewhere else until we can build our own stadium or buy pp at a price that doesn’t destroy our club then I’m with the later , I’m of an age where as much as pp is great I still see derby being the baseball ground ,, build a new baseball ground 

Don’t you think though, that the club now, and football in general, is nothing like what we grew up loving as kids. Who cares about the corporate monster that it’s become, with its endless pitch side adverts, paying lip service to SKY for peanuts.

Weve got our memories of those days, they can bastardise the game as much as they want, but they’ll never take those away.

Make a new club, make new memories, duck the EFL.

So, if a phoenix club were to start up, we’d need to look into it now if we are to get going for next season.

Personally I’d support it, regardless of what happens. I’m sick to the back teeth of the EFL, the money men playing with their toys, the crap atmosphere at every ground, the teams wasting time after 10 mins, stupid kick off times, the way supporters are treated, and everything else that goes with it.

FC County of Derby anyone?

15 minutes ago, Ambitious said:

Did any money actually change hands when Mel Morris bought the stadium from the club or was it just a paper transaction? 

The reason being is how on earth have we burned through £80m and several £20/30m loans from MSD since 2017/18 considering our net spend is down and wages have been collapsing ever since? 

I really have a hard time believing that we were really £80m up in our bank account from that point, also considering that we turned over close to £30m that season minus the stadium sale - our wage bill was at its highest £40.5m so really only £10m of that £80m should've been spent that season. It should've left us with a nice pot of £70m. I'd imagine it was substracted against his 'director loans' from earlier in his residency and the money was never in the club. 

I really wish someone could look into that and see how the transaction was executed. 

It wasn’t an actual cash sale with Mel’s till ringing the cash in as Mel handed over the money to himself, it was just an excersise in avoiding FFP. It raised a massive red flag for a lot of people, but tbh it didn’t really register with me that much, because I was still taken in thinking MM would see us right. 

36 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said:

Share with Burton, a non starter as has been said before....not big enough....

Chesterfield, 10,000 capacity, or Burton, 7,000 and better beer?

6 minutes ago, PistoldPete said:

You are assuming that these haven’t been paid. But if they are football creditors Efl has been withholding sky tv money to ensure they are paid. My estimate was around £4m outstanding now but I hadn’t seen our resident expert GOC’s reply which I think also rebuts your claim that we owe £10m to £15 m to football creditors. £6 m would still seem a high estimate to me. 

It also doesn’t mean it all has to be paid off straight away. If we are up to date with instalments then the outstanding instalments will transfer to the new owner who will be expected to pay them when they are due. 

6 minutes ago, RodleyRam said:

Steady on... Getting into that kind of grammatical debate is a loose loose situation.

You need to losen up fella

38 minutes ago, angieram said:

Now we've sorted that out, shall we do another one on there v their? ??‍♀️

Can you do one on lose and loose?

That really winds me up!

1 hour ago, Woodley Ram said:

I don’t have an issue with facts, but their is a lot of tosh on there. I know all sites including this one have people that need to think about what they write.
 

i do see similarities between some of the BCFC and Middlesbrough fans and their blind adherence to what they are being told and the tosh that Mel fed us.

we need to publish our accounts, but the thing that was a constant theme on both the Middlesbrough and BCFC sites was the use of forecasted revenue for players they might sell in the future based on historical figures. Something we have never spoken about on here. 
 

it’s a bit like the delays, some people still think  that we appealed when it was the EFL. I for one am not bothered if BCFC get a points deduction or not, if they do it’s down to their operating model that is based on buying cheap and selling big (something that they did well). Our operating model seems to be the worst of everyone’s.

Pop just needs to calm down on the rhetoric (and some 0f the others), he is clearly an influencer. He needs to stop turning not ITK comments in to fact. 
 

non of us know what the accounts look like as they haven’t been published, or what and who people have bid for the club or what’s going to happen. 
 

he also need to calm down about Stoke and concentrate on his own team.

He’s started trawling through old Twitter posts now to show what an awful fan base we are. 
He’s a poisonous troll. 

5 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

When Derby County dies,

When Derby County dies,

They’ll be pouring over account statements,

Discussing FFP limits,

Creating loads of Pie Chaaaaaarts……….

2 hours ago, TheresOnlyWanChope said:

That Bristol forum is full of clueless and Derby obsessed morons. Very strange. Just the title- Derby Deserve relegation.... why? It’s just weird. 

The pubs in Bristol must be a riot pre-match, all those PowerPoint presentations and football finance projections flying around.

People are getting a bit emotional, they’re probably envisioning Mel sat in the directors box waving as the south stand all hail him as the saviour. There’s no way that’s going to happen, and no way a new owner will allow him any say in the running of the club. He’s not going to be able to sit in the directors box. At the very most he could pay the debt off to MSD as an interest free loan until we are in a better position to pay it back. 

1 hour ago, Rammy03 said:

'the sun exclusive'

load of baalocks

They shouldn’t let the reporters go back in the office after a night on the pi….beer

We’re booked in for Friday and Saturday night as well, which covers most of the potential for SKY screwing us up.

We’re looking forward to visiting the museums and art galleries and a Michelin three star feast before said footy match.

I might partake in a martini or two before the game if I’m feeling really naughty.

48 minutes ago, Ambitious said:

I think people underestimate just how many fans we would lose getting relegated and starting on minus points, especially as we don't know what we can anticipate to do in the transfer market. I'd imagine that starting on minus points and further restrictions, particularly financial, is going to result in further transfer embargos and restrictions. 

The four players contracted for next season: Sibley, Bielik, Knight and Bird won't want to be pissing around wasting some of their most important career years in League One when all are well above and beyond that level. I also doubt Rooney and co will be here next season too. 

A new owner unwilling (maybe even unable) to pay unsecured creditors 25p in the £1 to avoid further sanctions also worries me. I'm concerned, should that happen, that we have plenty more years of austerity ahead of us which ultimately starves fanbases into apathy.

The other option is a half hearted attempt to compete with parachute payments clubs and gradually ending up in debt to an owner for upwards of £100m. Think of all the clubs treading water in the Championship with massive debts to their owners.

57 minutes ago, Oldben said:

Good news then, in the event that we are taken over, I seriously doubt that any new owners will not plan to return to the Championship to try and make money ASAP.

Who would spend millions bailing out derby to see them floundering in the lower League's.

There might a question about who replaces Rooney, if he leaves and the club's in League one.

There is a massive question about what players join derby if the clubs playing in league one.

Which new academy players can derby hope to sign to strengthen a depleted academy.

Which new coaches join the club, when coaches leave the club much like the players because they want to coach at a least championship level.

Derby will have little available time to sort out signing enough new players to have a playable squad. I think that means they will have to pay above the odds to bring quality into the team.

If derby get a 15 point deduction next season combined with only signing poor quality players, you could have the club staring at relegation from league one instead of potential promotion.

No way I can see any new owners signing up to that.

It could have been worse, if that Cardiff player didn’t score in the last few minutes of last season, we’d be at the bottom of league 1 now and looking at a 15 point deduction in league 2 with no players.

42 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

I'm being serious actually. The stadium has been professionally valued at £80m. Mel will reportedly let it go for £20m. The club need a minimum of around £30m to pay off debts to avoid minus 15 points next season. If those figures are correct the new buyer is £30m up. 

It’s only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. What someone is prepared to pay for it depends entirely on the football club that plays there.

I’ve no idea what the current situation has got to do with Alan Biley though.

1 minute ago, Bubbles said:

Team Derby statement following today's #SaveDerbyCounty meeting...

"Quantuma confirmed there are multiple bids and expressions of interest and are now in final stages of clarification. 

"Quantuma believe they will be in position to select preferred bidder by end of this week."

- @NSlater_DT now deleted

?????

20 minutes ago, Eatonram said:

If you move from Pride Park, you are likely to lose it forever or a very long time....it would be a disastrous decision regardless of the league we are in.

How’s that? What else would it be used for?

A boxing match every decade or a couple of concerts every summer wouldn’t pay for the upkeep, he’d be desperate to give it back.

2 minutes ago, Eatonram said:

Why on earth would people want us to ground share?

We would lose supporters in there thousands and still be paying a hefty rent. It would be madness.

Depends really, if we end up in the National League we’ll lose thousands of fans anyway.

What would be better, 8,000 at PPS with half the stadium closed or 5k at Burton standing on the terraces for a few seasons?

46 minutes ago, Curtains said:

You don’t watch other Sport then !

I watch other sport but I can take it or leave it, it’s not an obsession like DCFC.