I have nothing to say

I keep seeing this lack of interest in the academy players for the first team accusation thrown at warne , do we not realise our academy has had its heart ripped out just as much as the rest of the club ,,, perhaps we are trying to bring in young players and build an under 21 team that has a base and some stability without the need to keep pulling them into the first team for a while , from what I hear our under 21 s are getting beaten game on game , maybe there’s a thought process of building a regular competitive team there again , getting bashed up regularly is not a good confidence builder in young players to step up to first team football, we are rebuilding the WHOLE club from the brink of extinction and bare bones 🤷🏻‍♂️

Huge fan of the Anglo Italian cup - I was 13-14, Gazza and Platt going to Serie A, James Richardson on Golazzo, the memories of Italia 90... What a time to be alive!

Huge fan of the Anglo Italian cup - I was 13-14, Gazza and Platt going to Serie A, James Richardson on Golazzo, the memories of Italia 90... What a time to be alive!

I found some videos on YouTube of some of the Rams goals from the two seasons we took part. Quality not always great but this was pre-HD!
Pisa (3-0)
Cosenza (3-0)
Reggiana (3-0)
Cremonesese (1-3) Final
Cesena (6-1)
Udinese (3-1)
 

There are a number of contributors to these pages, genuine fans all I’m pretty sure, whose informed and interesting views I have enjoyed reading over the years but whose opinion of our manager is consistently less than positive, couched always in terms of ‘I want him and the team to do well, but….’  The latest ‘but’ appears to be his use (or non-use) of academy players.
Are we really all so cynical nowadays that we don’t believe what we’re being told in interviews or have we just stopped listening?
Warne has explained how much benefit he will get as manager from an academy player breaking through into the first team.  It’s in his interest for that to happen as it stretches his budget and allows him to spend more elsewhere.  Even if you (mistakenly imo) believe that he’s not ‘interested’ in young players, surely you can understand that he might be keen to extend his financial reach and recruit more widely?
He’s explained - and we have the photos to prove it happens - that players from the academy join in first team training sessions so that he and his staff can look at them but also so that the players themselves get a taste of the requirements of being a first team member.  He’s explained that they have to perform, to make the most of their opportunity.  Hasn't football, at all levels, always been the same?  It’s dog eat dog.  You have to perform all the time, now more than ever. Those who work hard, and not necessarily the most talented, get to have careers.  Twas ever thus
Hasn’t he said that he has to be sure that a young player won’t be destroyed by the experience of playing in the first team?  In these somewhat softer times aren’t we all aware of the mental health of individuals in a very tough work place - David Clowes directly referred to it in relation to Rosenior, for example.  Warne has said that he has seen a player’s career destroyed by being thrown in at the deep end too soon; Will Hughes (for example) was introduced gently - played on the wing/played for a few minutes at the end of a game before he was allowed to play regularly.  I was there at Steve Powell’s full debut v Liverpool.  It wasn’t his actual debut if I recall correctly.  But Steve (like Tom Huddleston) was a freak of football nature - a 16 year old in a man’s body, steeped in football from his father and with the mental strength to go with it.  There’s a reason that boys very rarely play men’s professional football. Shouldn’t we be glad that a senior member of our management team has the long term career prospects of our youngest players at heart rather than short term gain?  If you were a parent of someone coming through wouldn’t you want your son (or daughter) to be looked after?  We’re a tough crowd in a tough business and I don’t want a player destroyed by a poor performance in front of a Pride Park crowd. I want a manager to play someone when he thinks that player is ready, not before, and if he errs on the side of caution then good. Better that than destroying a career.
And what experience do our current academy players have to bring?  It’s not a winning experience, that’s for sure.  And lest anyone thinks I’m criticising, I’m not.  The academy was pillaged to help us have a club to support.  16/17/18 year olds couldn’t cope with under 21 football last season and they’re struggling again this season despite additions, so how are they going to cope with League 1 football? But Warne has described the regular meetings he and his staff have with those in charge of the academy (and recruitment) where they discuss who is ready for the opportunity, initially to train with the first team and then to show what they can do.  Shouldn’t we applaud that approach?
By all means criticise Warne for team selection or substitutions or formations or whatever if you want to but let’s not manufacture a lack of interest in young players coming through our academy as (yet) another stick to beat him with

Because they dont want to see it, because it would not fit with their agenda?

Agree. The academy was decimated. Last year's U21s won one game all season. They were playing young lads to fulfill fixtures. They've started the rebuild this season, so it's fair to expect a few to start coming through during the season. Warne is right, last season and at present they weren't/aren't good enough. But this should improve. Like the club as a whole, the academy is in reset and rebuild, can't see why people can't see this. 

Bolton 8 - 1 Manchester United Academy
 
Honestly, what is the actual point of allowing the academy teams into the EFL trophy?

The Frankenstein name came about in the studio when they were trying to piece the different parts of this monster together.
This live version is crazy good, Edgar is a mad music scientist and that rhythm section is so tight in the groove.
Stunning performance.
 

thing is - it's not really about a criminal conviction at this stage. For these women it's about being heard so everyone knows what he is
For them that's probably enough- I'm pretty sure they have never realistically expected to see him charged with a crime
The Time article is pretty damning - he's a rotten excuse for a man
https://archive.ph/gbfOP

His health is his own business really. Why should he or his Mrs have to share that with anyone? 

Yes but they lost 2-0

A poll after each game now ? ridiculous!

Oooohhhh we’re in the “you should stay off the forum” phase

For me it was this beast of a machine. 

Conveniently not mentioning that we made six changes, whatever fits the narrative eh.

What an absolutely crass comment!

I was a fan of him as a centre back. Disappointed when we got rid

How have they bullied us?
Not met our asking price and consequently we have not sold him.
Fail to see where the bullying is?

I was a fan of him as a centre back. Disappointed when we got rid

I was a fan of him as a centre back. Disappointed when we got rid

I was a fan of him as a centre back. Disappointed when we got rid

Do we have to use every available thread to slag off Warne, good grief.

BIG TRAV
BIG TRAY
BIG TRZY
BIG TZZY
BIG OZZY
BIF OZZY
BMF OZZY
IMF OZZY
IM FOZZY
I can't believe that no one has spotted the clue. Just change one letter each time and it's there. Irrefutable evidence that Big Trav is Craig Forsyth.