ram59 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 You could almost look at the transfer fee as an after sale thank you for his loan from Cardiff. I think that we all agree that he was instrumental in last season's promotion and therefore for us to be in a position to make this kind of signing now. On last season's form, he could play a key part in our consolidation in the Championship and with it, the extra £10m revenue. An extra few hundred thousand on a proven player, who fits in perfectly doesn't seem that rash, when looked at in this way. Carnero, scout's dad, YouRams and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucktwo Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 Its been the derby way for a good while now . Thankfully the great Clowes re-set button has been pressed . EranioIsGod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoghan1884 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 22 minutes ago, Mihangel said: Saying something the Jacob Butterfield fares quite well in comparison with the other 2! He wasn’t actually all that bad in his first season, got 8 goals in 40 games. He also was the reason we got Sam Winnall on loan wasn’t he? Apart from that he was absolutely horrendous. DarkFruitsRam7 and Mihangel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scout's dad Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 19 minutes ago, ram59 said: You could almost look at the transfer fee as an after sale thank you for his loan from Cardiff. I think that we all agree that he was instrumental in last season's promotion and therefore for us to be in a position to make this kind of signing now. On last season's form, he could play a key part in our consolidation in the Championship and with it, the extra £10m revenue. An extra few hundred thousand on a proven player, who fits in perfectly doesn't seem that rash, when looked at in this way. If he helps to consolidate us or even better top 6, then it’s money well spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 Are the people in this thread moaning about us (allegedly) bidding too much the same people who were moaning in the Thordarsson thread about us not paying enough to secure his services? The main difference here is we are chasing a player who we have had six months' experience of and know his aptitude, attitude and that he's a good fit to our club. Macintosh, Carnero, norwichram and 24 others 12 1 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 1 hour ago, Crewton said: But he'll clear every bid with Clowes first, you can be sure of that. Never doubted it. You miss the point though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 After his loan this is the signing we all wanted, he was the missing piece that got us promoted, since Clowse took over we’ve been nothing but sensible, do people really think we aren’t carrying on in the same direction now by spending a small amount compared to what others are spending? We’re in the safest of hands with a proper businessman who will only run us in the right way! ramit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKWORTHRAM Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 If it is around 900k, I am pretty sure that will be the total package based on add ons YorkshireRam, Wignall12 and Ram a lamb a ding dong 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DE56Ram Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 I’m sure I heard PW say just after his loan signing, that he had tracked/ been after Ebou for a long time. Previous transfer window with Rams and earlier with his previous club Rotterdam 🤔 Staff will know what this was likely to cost us and I’m guessing it’s ended up within our target parameters or we wouldn’t have completed. can’t wait to watch Ebou again he’s our hod-carrier and every good Rams side I’ve ever watched has had a good one of those! 😊 jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 29 minutes ago, angieram said: Are the people in this thread moaning about us (allegedly) bidding too much the same people who were moaning in the Thordarsson thread about us not paying enough to secure his services? The main difference here is we are chasing a player who we have had six months' experience of and know his aptitude, attitude and that he's a good fit to our club. Moaning about us bidding too much or being concerned about it? Personally didn't comment at all on the other thread. Just find the whole blindly trusting the owner thing has gotten us in a mess in the first place. Yes I trust Clowes. But I trusted Mel and so did the vast majority on here. Similar comments were made at the time encouraging all spend. Not sure I completely understand the backlash to what is understandable concerns. Appreciate I'm going against the grain here though. Glad to have signed Adams, good guy and good player, but I just don't agree with fans being so dismissive of reasonable concerns. Macintosh and RoyMac5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram a lamb a ding dong Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 So, we are signing a player who will settle straight away and hit the ground running. And, we know how to get the best out of him. If we were signing Victor Theoplonkins from Norway for 1.5M, most fans would be creaming themselves. It doesn't matter one jot how much he costs. He got us promoted so his worth is high. End of. Sometimes it's better to have a known than an unknown. angieram, ariotofmyown, Ram1988 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram a lamb a ding dong Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 Oh, and we will most likely bag 3M from sell ons so plenty to throw around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBrian Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 Adams arrived in January helping Derby win promotion, how much extra will the club make in the championship over 12 months? Would we have gained promotion without Adams, my opinion is probably not, so if the fee is £650,000 then he his worth it. Ram1988 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram a lamb a ding dong Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SirBrian said: Adams arrived in January helping Derby win promotion, how much extra will the club make in the championship over 12 months? Would we have gained promotion without Adams, my opinion is probably not, so if the fee is £650,000 then he his worth it. He is worth about £4m in terms of how much more the club will benefit from going up. Shoot me down but imo we would have probably scraped play offs at best without him. Single handedly the most influential loan player in my 40 years supporting the club. Bobby D in 91 is close as is laddo from Milan in 2000. George T was brilliant but the team he played in would knock spots off the current team Edited July 12 by Ram a lamb a ding dong Ram1988, SirBrian and Goldstar 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSD Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 I think people are wide off the mark if they are complaining about Ebou's transfer fee. He was in the top 3 most important players last season, Mr Clowes was spot on when he said we could have won the league if Ebou had signed last summer. Completely changed the dynamic in midfield and we looked far more aggressive and eager to win the ball back, whereas having Hourihane in the same position was a complete waste of time. Ebou stopped midfield runners getting forward, this was our achilles heel in many home matches in the first half of the season. He's going to be so important for us. This isn't the same as when we spent £10 million on Johnson and Butterfield and they added zero value. Personally, I'd have paid £2-3 million for Ebou if it meant keeping us up. Ram a lamb a ding dong and Ram1988 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 1 hour ago, angieram said: Are the people in this thread moaning about us (allegedly) bidding too much the same people who were moaning in the Thordarsson thread about us not paying enough to secure his services? The main difference here is we are chasing a player who we have had six months' experience of and know his aptitude, attitude and that he's a good fit to our club. I thought we were arguing about us paying too much for a player that we haven’t actually signed yet 🤷🏻♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 28 but with 5 lungs like Ebou has - we’re getting a known quantity for at least 3 excellent years maybe even 4 before the inevitably decline due to age. Probably paid around the same as what we paid for Kenzo who is unknown quantity but has age on his side. If someone had offered 1 exciting prospect from the continent and Ebou all done and dusted for around £1.5m you’d have snapped their hand off surely? ariotofmyown, AmberRamber, angieram and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl of Tupton Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 2 hours ago, Elwood P Dowd said: What a waste of money During admin I once started to tot up the values of all those players we signed for millions who eventually left for nothing. Butterfield, Johnson, Blackman, Anya, Waghorn, Marriott, Jozefzoon etc. I got to about £35 million and stopped counting. And that’s just the transfer fees and doesn’t include wages!! Then there are those we took a massive loss on like Bielik. Small wonder we went bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 50 minutes ago, SirBrian said: Adams arrived in January helping Derby win promotion, how much extra will the club make in the championship over 12 months? Would we have gained promotion without Adams, my opinion is probably not, so if the fee is £650,000 then he his worth it. That's a little warped, if you don't mind me saying. We paid a loan fee. He helped us get promotion... single handedly or otherwise. THAT fee appears to have been an excellent deal, due to said promotion and subsequent increase in income... but we are under no obligation to bung Cardiff a few extra quid because it all went well. Cardiff City are not a conscientious and hard working waitress in a restaurant. We don't need to consider tipping them! The fee we are looking at now is for the future. Therefore, we won't know if that proves to be "well worth it" until the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmberRamber Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 This situation really reminds me of when we took players on loan when I first started watching the rams. Usually only a month. Either an older player like Frank Stapleton or Burridge to be stop gaps or players the club were looking at to bring in permanently. Loans have changed a lot since then. Mainly farming younger players out to gain experience and add value . The season long loans of mount Wilson and tomori (who was incredible) were double edged. They were all fantastic but we lost out three best players for nothing and no promotion. Ebou added needed horsepower to the midfield and proved his worth. Cardiff thought he would be a valuable player although it's not worked for him there All being well with the confidence of a promotion and the love of the fans he can play his best football for us. He has earned his chance to wear the Ram on his shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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