RadioactiveWaste Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: I could nip down Poundshop? Good man. Most likely place to find a warne approved type of character. RoyMac5 and Walkley Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Good man. Most likely place to find a warne approved type of character. I'll nip down Age UK charity shop then. Edited August 21, 2023 by Srg therealhantsram, RoyMac5, RadioactiveWaste and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whestonram Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, angieram said: We got the 1 bit of the result whilst we were playing four at the back! Did we? Shaun Barker described it as a 5 at the beginning of the match, and people on here seem to have different opinions. Maybe even the players didn't know if it was a four, or a asymmetrical 5, with NML further forward than Fozzy? Whatever, it can't have been a very clear formation if people saw it differently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, whestonram said: Did we? Shaun Barker described it as a 5 at the beginning of the match, and people on here seem to have different opinions. Maybe even the players didn't know if it was a four, or a asymmetrical 5, with NML further forward than Fozzy? Whatever, it can't have been a very clear formation if people saw it differently! It was a really unusual formation. It was essentially 4 at the back, but Forsyth had more licence to go forward than Rooney did. But that was because the supposed "left winger" was Thompson but he barely went out on the left, whereas, NML was stood on the touchline on the right. Was oddly lopsided, and definitely not something that would work in every game. angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 If we play 5 at the back enough will we eventually get good at it? You'd think it could be coached into players if they're doing it every match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: If we play 5 at the back enough will we eventually get good at it? You'd think it could be coached into players if they're doing it every match? Well the daft thing is we brought in players who have experience of it. I think, fundamentally, the problem is with those we haven't replaced (Bradley not-withstanding). We just don't have enough in the middle or up front regardless of any formation we play at the moment. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Srg said: Well the daft thing is we brought in players who have experience of it. I think, fundamentally, the problem is with those we haven't replaced (Bradley not-withstanding). We just don't have enough in the middle or up front regardless of any formation we play at the moment. To play devil’s advocate we have scored in all four games and I was reliably informed by many on here that we would win every game 1-0 based on our Arsenal-like defence 😊 SaffyRam and i-Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: If we play 5 at the back enough will we eventually get good at it? You'd think it could be coached into players if they're doing it every match? I think from what has been posted previously you need certain players and types of players to be successful with 3 at the back. I struggle to see the point of it when there is much more stability, and therefore opportunity to attack with 4 at the back. Edited August 21, 2023 by RoyMac5 RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, angieram said: We got the 1 bit of the result whilst we were playing four at the back! Sorry Angie, we never played four at the back. NML was always the attacking RWB with little responsibility to get back, hence Rooney had to cover a lot. What have it away was when Cashin took a throw in in the 5th or 10th minutes. If we were four at the back, he definitely wouldn’t have been taking the throw in. It was in essence, three at the back, a normal wing back in Fozzy, a very attacking wing back in NML, three on the middle with Thompson given more reign to attacked and two up front thank fully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, rammieib said: Sorry Angie, we never played four at the back. NML was always the attacking RWB with little responsibility to get back, hence Rooney had to cover a lot. What have it away was when Cashin took a throw in in the 5th or 10th minutes. If we were four at the back, he definitely wouldn’t have been taking the throw in. It was in essence, three at the back, a normal wing back in Fozzy, a very attacking wing back in NML, three on the middle with Thompson given more reign to attacked and two up front thank fully. I disagree, start of the 2nd half saw a discernible change to shape, accommodating the traditional back 5. ''NML was always the attacking RWB with little responsibility to get back, hence Rooney had to cover a lot.'' - You do realise you've just described the relationship between a winger and a fullback in a traditional back 4? Especially since Fozzy was further back, how many formations are intentionally lopsided? angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanoakaram4life Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Barnsley after Nombe for 1 million. I thought they were financially ruined 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, rammieib said: Sorry Angie, we never played four at the back. NML was always the attacking RWB with little responsibility to get back, hence Rooney had to cover a lot. What have it away was when Cashin took a throw in in the 5th or 10th minutes. If we were four at the back, he definitely wouldn’t have been taking the throw in. It was in essence, three at the back, a normal wing back in Fozzy, a very attacking wing back in NML, three on the middle with Thompson given more reign to attacked and two up front thank fully. We definitely started off a a solid back 4, which slowly morphed more and more into a back 5 as the game went on. Kind of like this: Wildsmith Rooney Nelson Cashin Forsyth Smith Hourihane LThompson Mendez-Laing Waghorn Washington Edited August 21, 2023 by Ghost of Clough Gladram, Foreveram, derbydaz22 and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 I think people get tied down with formations too much, I don’t think NML was anywhere near being in a full back position. I sat in the East stand and watched Forsyth, Cashin , Nelson and Rooney go through their warm up drills as a straight four while NML was warming up with the forwards. My son and grandson like to go down to the front and watch them warm up, as soon as my lad came back he said it’s definitely a back four then. Radio Derby and the BBC website both had us down as 352🤷🏻♂️ angieram and YorkshireRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Srg said: Well the daft thing is we brought in players who have experience of it. I think, fundamentally, the problem is with those we haven't replaced (Bradley not-withstanding). We just don't have enough in the middle or up front regardless of any formation we play at the moment. 1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said: I think from what has been posted previously you need certain players and types of players to be successful with 3 at the back. I struggle to see the point of it when there is much more stability, and therefore opportunity to attack with 4 at the back. But surely even if they're not natural at it or particularly comfortable at it, they can at least he trained to be competent at it? Well, you'd think anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Foreveram said: I think people get tied down with formations too much, I don’t think NML was anywhere near being in a full back position. I sat in the East stand and watched Forsyth, Cashin , Nelson and Rooney go through their warm up drills as a straight four while NML was warming up with the forwards. My son and grandson like to go down to the front and watch them warm up, as soon as my lad came back he said it’s definitely a back four then. Radio Derby and the BBC website both had us down as 352🤷🏻♂️ Average positions are usually a good indicator of formation. Based on our starting 11, that was: Wildsmith Nelson Cashin Rooney Smith Forsyth Hourihane LThompson Washington Mendez-Laing Waghorn Kind of a fusion of 433, 442 and 352 Edited August 21, 2023 by Ghost of Clough angieram, Foreveram and ck- 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Leeds Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Average positions are usually a good indicator of formation. Based on our starting 11, that was: Wildsmith Nelson Cashin Rooney Smith Forsyth Hourihane LThompson Washington Mendez-Laing Waghorn Kind of a fusion of 433, 442 and 352 Suppose if we have no idea what formation we’re playing neither will the opposition whestonram, InstaRam, Jayram and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkley Ram Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, RadioactiveWaste said: If we play 5 at the back enough will we eventually get good at it? You'd think it could be coached into players if they're doing it every match? We'll have it mastered in time for the national league promotion push Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 So todays rumour is that not all formations are symmetrical? Well, I am shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) This a transfer thread or formation thread 😳 Edited August 21, 2023 by Topram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: Average positions are usually a good indicator of formation. Based on our starting 11, that was: Wildsmith Nelson Cashin Rooney Smith Forsyth Hourihane LThompson Washington Mendez-Laing Waghorn Kind of a mess. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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