Comrade 86 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Ah, so woke has been expanded further to include folk who prescribe puberty blockers. So hard to keep up with the ever-growing list of things to be outraged about. Not really sure how that fits the anti-discrimination stance, but hey, in for a penny ? SMDH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Ah, so woke has been expanded further to include folk who prescribe puberty blockers. So hard to keep up with the ever-growing list of things to be outraged about. Not really sure how that fits the anti-discrimination stance, but hey, in for a penny ? SMDH Our language is being dismantled, woke , right wing , Marxist ,this phobe that phobe, there’s no proper argument anymore it’s like a school playground , years ago when I heard right wing attached to someone it was pretty certain I would find some very unpleasant bordering on dangerous extremist , now it could be as simple as edging towards brexit being the slightly better option than being in the EU , same with woke , it’s like the boy who cried wolf story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Archied said: Our language is being dismantled, woke , right wing , Marxist ,this phobe that phobe, there’s no proper argument anymore it’s like a school playground , years ago when I heard right wing attached to someone it was pretty certain I would find some very unpleasant bordering on dangerous extremist , now it could be as simple as edging towards brexit being the slightly better option than being in the EU , same with woke , it’s like the boy who cried wolf story Yep, just lazy and asinine labelling. It doesn't engender debate, it merely perpetuates divides. Archied, Alph and Stive Pesley 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 hour ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Yep, just lazy and asinine labelling. It doesn't engender debate, it merely perpetuates divides. Maybe it’s a side effect of the internet and media age , we interact with so many people we know nothing about or ever look in the eye ??♂️ Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 16 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: There was a big piece in The Times on the Tavistock Clinic scandal and the forced prescribing of puberty blockers to kids https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tavistock-scandal-gender-clinic-puberty-blockers-nhs-investigation-ghrqxk8pn talking about it being on a par with the systematic doping of East German atheletes, but sadly it now seems to have fallen behind the paywall. But I think it reveals that not just kids but some medical professionals and parents are confused by various woke ideologies, especially the sometimes forced trans stuff as described here. The advocacy charities" Mermaids and Stonewall have been trongly involved in pushing this. People should go to prison for the abuse that's been going on at this long-notorious centre. You can still read it at the internet archive https://archive.ph/CwUEW There are indeed a lot of troubling allegations in the guy's book, and I would like to see a proper independent inquiry for sure. The problem around the whole debate though is people on the extremes of the argument shouting about wanting to send people to prison based on something they've heard and chosen to believe unconditionally The only sensible moderate view is that there seems to be some troubling allegations here - and given that it involves children, it ought to be thoroughly investigated by an independent body to establish the truth ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 On 12/02/2023 at 09:08, Stive Pesley said: Wait till you snowflakes find out about pantomimes ? Interesting repeated use of the word "normal" too. You sound like my Nan Oh no he doesn't. Stive Pesley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 49 minutes ago, Eddie said: Oh no he doesn't. He’s behind you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, Archied said: They are behind you ? FTFY Come on, don't assume. ? Tamworthram, Eddie, Mucker1884 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, sage said: FTFY Come on, don't assume. ? Who’s ume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRam Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) Not sure to answer the thread subject but there were some strange childrens books in Waterstones window today. How times have changed from my childhood. Edited February 13, 2023 by TimRam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, TimRam said: Not sure to answer the thread subject but there were some strange childrens books in Waterstones window today. How times have changed from my childhood. Do you think the books in Waterstones in your childhood were the same as your fathers childhood? Tamworthram and Stive Pesley 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 5 hours ago, Stive Pesley said: You can still read it at the internet archive https://archive.ph/CwUEW There are indeed a lot of troubling allegations in the guy's book, and I would like to see a proper independent inquiry for sure. The problem around the whole debate though is people on the extremes of the argument shouting about wanting to send people to prison based on something they've heard and chosen to believe unconditionally The only sensible moderate view is that there seems to be some troubling allegations here - and given that it involves children, it ought to be thoroughly investigated by an independent body to establish the truth ASAP. Pretty sure Tavistock has been closed following an investigation into their conduct although I may be wrong on that tbh. There was also a story where numerous workers tried to blow the whistle to the guardian and they simply ignored it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Not a hate crime, according to the police. Time will tell, no doubt. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-64625162 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, Leeds Ram said: Pretty sure Tavistock has been closed following an investigation into their conduct although I may be wrong on that tbh. There was also a story where numerous workers tried to blow the whistle to the guardian and they simply ignored it. I believe it is due to close in the Spring but is being replaced by two new NHS run centres, one in London and one in the North-West. I think the Keira Bell court case was the catalyst for a major review of its activities in recent years, which led to the decision to close it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 2 hours ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Not a hate crime, according to the police. Time will tell, no doubt. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-64625162 You know my thinking , I refuse to see any decent person as any different to myself no matter what label todays fragmented society wants to put on people , this is very much a hate crime committed by scummy hateful people , it matters not what excuse they use to direct they’re hatefulness at , ALL people stand as one against this shxt , there’s only two types of people in my view ,,, decent people and violent hateful scum ??♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 40 minutes ago, Archied said: ALL people stand as one against this shxt , there’s only two types of people in my view ,,, decent people and violent hateful scum ??♂️ Bit black and white for me mate. I think plenty fall somewhere in the middle. I think the vast majority start off 'decent' but plenty end up somewhere else altogether, but that's as far as I'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 53 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Bit black and white for me mate. I think plenty fall somewhere in the middle. I think the vast majority start off 'decent' but plenty end up somewhere else altogether, but that's as far as I'd. You ok mate? Is tea ready, or do you need an ambulance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 55 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Bit black and white for me mate. I think plenty fall somewhere in the middle. I think the vast majority start off 'decent' but plenty end up somewhere else altogether, but that's as far as I'd. I would also add a lot of people should know better wind up people with their words they choose. ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 1 hour ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Bit black and white for me mate. I think plenty fall somewhere in the middle. I think the vast majority start off 'decent' but plenty end up somewhere else altogether, but that's as far as I'd. No I get what you you mean but I guess I’m talking in the extreme circumstances of this kind of evil from any kind of physical harm / attack to murder , I just have this thing that I would not give them so much as a sniff at deluded self justification, they hurt or kill human beings end of Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 14 hours ago, TimRam said: Not sure to answer the thread subject but there were some strange childrens books in Waterstones window today. How times have changed from my childhood. I used to buy my 'strange' books from a vendor in the underpass near Mount Street bus station. cstand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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