i-Ram Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 38 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: First of all, I’m not writing him off based on his performance yesterday. I thought he looked relatively ok, but as you say, it was a fitness test, so I don’t take any note of pre-season performances, positively or negatively. I’m basing my view on his career to date. Spending last season in the National League, not starting every game and managing a grand total of 3 goals doesn’t scream way above that level to me. As I say, footballers follow very different career trajectory’s to most other careers. A 21 year old actuary, or any other professional office job, is roughly akin to a 16 year old footballer. If Glover was 16, clearly I’d be more than willing to sign him up and give the chance to develop. But as it is, he’s 21, which is roughly equivalent to probably a 30 year old in most careers. If I’m 30 and I haven’t made it as an actuary, my firm would let me go, without a shadow of a doubt (which is scary!). I wouldn’t even get a chance to drop down a level, it’s game over. Whereas Glover I’m sure will make a decent career for himself at National League level. But simply put, if he was going to make it at League One level, he’d be performing at a higher level by now. When you get time you should read up on the World Cup goal record holder with 16 goals. Crewton and GermanRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoooMarkWright Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Ah bugger, I’ve realised the first negative of us coming out of administration - @Millenniumram talking absolute gibberish on every single transfer rumour! Wolfie20, nogbad van 50 and Crewton 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, i-Ram said: When you get time you should read up on the World Cup goal record holder with 16 goals. I’m well aware of who Miroslav Klose is. He was playing Bundesliga football by age 22, as far as I can see. A late bloomer for sure, but he was hardly playing non-league. He was a striker as well, which is a position where players tend to reach their peak later than wingers such as Glover, especially with the style he played with. Irrespective, the odd exception of a late bloomer doesn’t break the general rule. You wouldn’t snap up every decent player from Halifax just because Jamie Vardy didn’t do too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, enachops said: Ah bugger, I’ve realised the first negative of us coming out of administration - @Millenniumram talking absolute gibberish on every single transfer rumour! That’s a bit unfair. He’s entitled to his views which are made eloquently. Don’t agree with him on Sibley though ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, enachops said: Ah bugger, I’ve realised the first negative of us coming out of administration - @Millenniumram talking absolute gibberish on every single transfer rumour! I’ve been positive about more rumours than I’ve been negative about! Just don’t see the potential with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickD Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Big Trav said: He looked solid yesterday. 21 is still a young age. Can’t believe people are slating him because he hasn’t ‘made it’ yet. Jamie Vardy played non league until he was 25. Ryan can come in and be a decent player for the u23s and probably a good squad option in the first team. Thought we learnt to never write players off after CKR Late bloomers:- Tony Book (Man City) league debut at 26, Roger Davies (DCFC) playing non league at Worcester until he was 21 Ian Wright (22) Kevin Phillips (21) Ole Gunnar Solskjaer (21) .....etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 4 hours ago, Millenniumram said: First of all, I’m not writing him off based on his performance yesterday. I thought he looked relatively ok, but as you say, it was a fitness test, so I don’t take any note of pre-season performances, positively or negatively. I’m basing my view on his career to date. Spending last season in the National League, not starting every game and managing a grand total of 3 goals doesn’t scream way above that level to me. As I say, footballers follow very different career trajectory’s to most other careers. A 21 year old actuary, or any other professional office job, is roughly akin to a 16 year old footballer. If Glover was 16, clearly I’d be more than willing to sign him up and give the chance to develop. But as it is, he’s 21, which is roughly equivalent to probably a 30 year old in most careers. If I’m 30 and I haven’t made it as an actuary, my firm would let me go, without a shadow of a doubt (which is scary!). I wouldn’t even get a chance to drop down a level, it’s game over. Whereas Glover I’m sure will make a decent career for himself at National League level. But simply put, if he was going to make it at League One level, he’d be performing at a higher level by now. My minds blown reading that. Millenniumram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bald Eagle's Barmy Army said: My minds blown reading that. So was mine writing it! archram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 13 hours ago, Big Trav said: Expect collins mid to late next week After he scored on saturday are we still expecting this to be completed ? Big Trav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, S8TY said: After he scored on saturday are we still expecting this to be completed ? Obviously……came through on the Big Trav ?☎️. He’s ITK you know ? S8TY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 11 hours ago, MickD said: Late bloomers:- Tony Book (Man City) league debut at 26, Roger Davies (DCFC) playing non league at Worcester until he was 21 Ian Wright (22) Kevin Phillips (21) Ole Gunnar Solskjaer (21) .....etc. Not outfield player but Nick Pope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, CBRammette said: Not outfield player but Nick Pope Oh no, not back to that again ? Stick this in with the Nunn thread ?⛪️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/derby-county-liam-rosenior-transfers-7356601 Glover let go. McDonald still with us but has picked up a knock. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 He had 1 or 2 decent moments, but nothing exceptional. Can’t say I’m overly surprised if he’d rather try and find a first team opportunity. Don’t want McDonald either like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 I thought Glover looked decent enough against Bradford to perhaps get another game. McDonald I thought was largely anonymous in the same game. Guess Glover didn’t show enough in training/the Bradford game and/or Liam thinks we have better options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-a-lama fa fa fa Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 shame. he was good in kes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 31 minutes ago, StaffsRam said: I thought Glover looked decent enough against Bradford to perhaps get another game. McDonald I thought was largely anonymous in the same game. Guess Glover didn’t show enough in training/the Bradford game and/or Liam thinks we have better options. I agree. I thought Glover showed more in the Bradford game than Diallo did last night, although possibly down to the whole team performing / not performing. Glover also seemed comfortable on the left which is the weaker side IMO. NML a clear winner for the starting spot on the right at the moment, but Barkhuizen and Knight are also better on that side than the left. Van der MoodHoover 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 47 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: I agree. I thought Glover showed more in the Bradford game than Diallo did last night, although possibly down to the whole team performing / not performing. Glover also seemed comfortable on the left which is the weaker side IMO. NML a clear winner for the starting spot on the right at the moment, but Barkhuizen and Knight are also better on that side than the left. I agree with all of that. NML just looks like he's got the ability to change a game and teams really have to be wary of him. And I'm not sure the same can be said about Barkhuizen or Knight who both are a bit more straight forward to defend against. Ghost of Clough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicman Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Rather Glover than the ex West Lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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