Bris Vegas Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 I actually like those changes. The Carabao Cup has become crap because Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea just use it to give squad players playing time while building fitness for their key players. But they still win. Gone are the days when we used to have Boro v Blackburn in a final. FA Cup replays are only good if a small team can hold a big team to a draw to then get a slice of the revenue. But that has probably only happened once in the past 15 years (Burton vs Man Utd). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: I actually like those changes. The Carabao Cup has become crap because Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea just use it to give squad players playing time while building fitness for their key players. But they still win. Gone are the days when we used to have Boro v Blackburn in a final. FA Cup replays are only good if a small team can hold a big team to a draw to then get a slice of the revenue. But that has probably only happened once in the past 15 years (Burton vs Man Utd). And if they do manage to hold them to a draw, it’s arguably better to have the chance of a winning in a shoot out, and getting the revenue from an away tie in the next round. Bris Vegas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 Just kick Premier League clubs out of the League Cup, exclusive to EFL clubs and scrap the EFL Trophy. You have to ensure incentives are there to field full strength teams and a cup that clubs really want to go out and win. Premier ram and FlyBritishMidland 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 23 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: I actually like those changes. The Carabao Cup has become crap because Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea just use it to give squad players playing time while building fitness for their key players. But they still win. Gone are the days when we used to have Boro v Blackburn in a final. FA Cup replays are only good if a small team can hold a big team to a draw to then get a slice of the revenue. But that has probably only happened once in the past 15 years (Burton vs Man Utd). They still win because sides like Boro and Blackburn field weakened sides themselves. If more teams actually went for these cups then we might see finals and winners which include teams outside of the so called big 6. But, money talks I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Rammy03 said: They still win because sides like Boro and Blackburn field weakened sides themselves. If more teams actually went for these cups then we might see finals and winners which include teams outside of the so called big 6. But, money talks I suppose. It’s really undervalued the cup. You’re right, league games take priority so even the cup games for Championship and lower PL clubs is just a fitness exercise involving squad players. Maybe if they changed the incentive of winning it may make a difference. Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 54 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: It’s really undervalued the cup. You’re right, league games take priority so even the cup games for Championship and lower PL clubs is just a fitness exercise involving squad players. Maybe if they changed the incentive of winning it may make a difference. It’s a cup the Scousers and others were glad to win when they have had a trophy drought. Premier ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Bris Vegas said: It’s really undervalued the cup. You’re right, league games take priority so even the cup games for Championship and lower PL clubs is just a fitness exercise involving squad players. Maybe if they changed the incentive of winning it may make a difference. Most teams have got something they consider more important to play for. Either European football, or relegation, or the playoffs. there are only a few teams in the premier that know they’re pretty safe from relegation, and aren’t likely to even trouble the europa conference place, so they could go for it in the cups. even then though, if you’re going to prioritise a cup, you’d prioritise the fa cup. even the fa trophy suffers from the same problem. The money to be gained in the leagues now, far out weighs anything you’ll realistically get for the cup in most circumstances. And at the end of the day, we all know Man City are going to end up winning it, and if you’re being pragmatic, and know you won’t be taking home the silverware, what’s the point in knackering your chances of a decent league position for glorious exit at the quarter final stage in any cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 2 hours ago, TigerTedd said: Most teams have got something they consider more important to play for. Either European football, or relegation, or the playoffs. there are only a few teams in the premier that know they’re pretty safe from relegation, and aren’t likely to even trouble the europa conference place, so they could go for it in the cups. even then though, if you’re going to prioritise a cup, you’d prioritise the fa cup. even the fa trophy suffers from the same problem. The money to be gained in the leagues now, far out weighs anything you’ll realistically get for the cup in most circumstances. And at the end of the day, we all know Man City are going to end up winning it, and if you’re being pragmatic, and know you won’t be taking home the silverware, what’s the point in knackering your chances of a decent league position for glorious exit at the quarter final stage in any cup? That’s true. I was disappointed with City’s line-up against Liverpool in the FA Cup semi-final last season. But it was understandable given the PL and CL take priority. But even City’s squad players would be too much for the likes of Villa and West Ham these days. In the last decade only Swansea, Wigan and Leicester have won a cup outside the big six. The first two both around 2012/13 before the likes of Pep and Klopp arrived while Leicester won in an empty stadium. I think the next decade could see less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ghost of Clough Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 On 22/09/2022 at 15:45, Bris Vegas said: I actually like those changes. The Carabao Cup has become crap because Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea just use it to give squad players playing time while building fitness for their key players. But they still win. Gone are the days when we used to have Boro v Blackburn in a final. FA Cup replays are only good if a small team can hold a big team to a draw to then get a slice of the revenue. But that has probably only happened once in the past 15 years (Burton vs Man Utd). Exeter cleared their debt thanks to the replay vs Man Utd in 2005, the year before Burton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Arsenal 3-1 up against Spurs with 20 minutes left - Spurs down to 10 men and Conte has just made 4 changes in one go…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 TigerTedd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) Haaland...so so strong and another one ? Edited October 2, 2022 by Unlucky Alf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 United fans streaming out of the Etihad and its not even half time - hope they've checked if the trains back to London are running. TigerTedd, Wolfie, Premier ram and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 City scoring six against United and Harry Maguire wasn’t even on the pitch. Crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 And another one bites the dust. Wolves have sacked manager Bruno Lage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Villa and the dirties are so poor yet they currently have double the Gumps points tally so what does that tell you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 If Haaland stayed in the Premier League he would smash every existing record, will be interesting as when he moved they said he would be in Spain after a couple of seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted October 3, 2022 Author Share Posted October 3, 2022 On 27/09/2022 at 14:36, Bris Vegas said: Mrs Ronaldo, Haaland and Van Djik the best of the bunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 My word but that's a horrible strip Spurs are wearing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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