desirelines Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, angieram said: I think our trouble is that our best young players come under the spotlight at an earlier age than Forest's do because we are playing - and beating - the very best academy teams at both under 23 and under 18 levels. The coaches go back to their clubs and talk about our players to their recruitment teams, whereas they just don't encounter the Forest youngsters very often. If Forest get a couple of seasons extra to get them onto pro contracts and give them a bit of first team experience, they'll make more out of them. That's interesting. It sort of begs the question, what's the point of having one of the best Academy's in the country if your best prospects are getting picked off for peanuts. The whole system seems wrong. angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, desirelines said: That's interesting. It sort of begs the question, what's the point of having one of the best Academy's in the country if your best prospects are getting picked off for peanuts. The whole system seems wrong. It's the compensation system that's wrong. Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, angieram said: I think our trouble is that our best young players come under the spotlight at an earlier age than Forest's do because we are playing - and beating - the very best academy teams at both under 23 and under 18 levels. The coaches go back to their clubs and talk about our players to their recruitment teams, whereas they just don't encounter the Forest youngsters very often. If Forest get a couple of seasons extra to get them onto pro contracts and give them a bit of first team experience, they'll make more out of them. It'll be interesting to see if their success continues now they're Cat 1. Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Gnarly Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, angieram said: It's the compensation system that's wrong. Almost like it is just there to serve the elite clubs... Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipley Ram Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 6 hours ago, Bob Gnarly said: Almost like it is just there to serve the elite clubs... They used the "it's the best system for getting good England players" line to get the system in place. There is a simple solution to this, put alimit on the number of players a team can loan out each season, say 5. This will stop the big club hoovering up all the youngsters, to just loan them out and sell them on. Taribo, IslandExile and Dean (hick) Saunders 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Question is how much did he go for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: Question is how much did he go for 400k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: 400k A whole 8 days of Lukaku's wages. Love this football malarkey, gets fairer every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: A whole 8 days of Lukaku's wages. Love this football malarkey, gets fairer every week. I dont think it is too bad a price considering our situation & that he was on a scholar contract. Believe it was 400k upfront too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravabeerbelly Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 10 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: A whole 8 days of Lukaku's wages. Love this football malarkey, gets fairer every week. What, Lukaku, the ex Anderlect, Man Utd and Inter Milan player? He of over 500 senior games at the very top level and over 250 first team goals in that time? You mean Lukaku who has over 100 caps for the no 1 ranked international side in the world whilst scoring 68 international goals and playing in several World Cups and European Championships? The same Lukaku who has won the Belgian Pro League, Serie A, UEFA Europa League runner-up, a FIFA World Cup third place, was voted IFFHS World's Best International Goal Scorer, PFA Premier League Team of the Year, Everton Player of the Season (twice), FIFA World Cup Bronze Boot, is in Italian Football Hall of Fame, UEFA Europa League Player of the Season, was voted Serie A Most Valuable Player, and was UEFA Nations League top scorer? That Lukaku? What? He’s earning in 8 days what we got paid for Dylan Williams, the 18 year old who’s made two starts and sat on the bench as an unused sub for about 15 games in a row in a Championship side who are under embargo, have a small squad, a 21 point deduction, no owners, are in Administration and on the brink of liquidation? Madness. The games gone. IslandExile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jram Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Ravabeerbelly said: What, Lukaku, the ex Anderlect, Man Utd and Inter Milan player? He of over 500 senior games at the very top level and over 250 first team goals in that time? You mean Lukaku who has over 100 caps for the no 1 ranked international side in the world whilst scoring 68 international goals and playing in several World Cups and European Championships? The same Lukaku who has won the Belgian Pro League, Serie A, UEFA Europa League runner-up, a FIFA World Cup third place, was voted IFFHS World's Best International Goal Scorer, PFA Premier League Team of the Year, Everton Player of the Season (twice), FIFA World Cup Bronze Boot, is in Italian Football Hall of Fame, UEFA Europa League Player of the Season, was voted Serie A Most Valuable Player, and was UEFA Nations League top scorer? That Lukaku? What? He’s earning in 8 days what we got paid for Dylan Williams, the 18 year old who’s made two starts and sat on the bench as an unused sub for about 15 games in a row in a Championship side who are under embargo, have a small squad, a 21 point deduction, no owners, are in Administration and on the brink of liquidation? Madness. The games gone. In fairness, outside the context of football, those figures are absolutely crazy. £400,000 is more than most pay for a house, never mind a person Being paid that in 8 days is silly, regardless of how good you are at the thing you’re paid for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravabeerbelly Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jram said: In fairness, outside the context of football, those figures are absolutely crazy. £400,000 is more than most pay for a house, never mind a person Being paid that in 8 days is silly, regardless of how good you are at the thing you’re paid for Not if that’s what the industry generates in revenue and sponsorship. Pro rata what Tom Cruise earns per minute for a Mission Impossible…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Ravabeerbelly said: What, Lukaku, the ex Anderlect, Man Utd and Inter Milan player? He of over 500 senior games at the very top level and over 250 first team goals in that time? You mean Lukaku who has over 100 caps for the no 1 ranked international side in the world whilst scoring 68 international goals and playing in several World Cups and European Championships? The same Lukaku who has won the Belgian Pro League, Serie A, UEFA Europa League runner-up, a FIFA World Cup third place, was voted IFFHS World's Best International Goal Scorer, PFA Premier League Team of the Year, Everton Player of the Season (twice), FIFA World Cup Bronze Boot, is in Italian Football Hall of Fame, UEFA Europa League Player of the Season, was voted Serie A Most Valuable Player, and was UEFA Nations League top scorer? That Lukaku? What? He’s earning in 8 days what we got paid for Dylan Williams, the 18 year old who’s made two starts and sat on the bench as an unused sub for about 15 games in a row in a Championship side who are under embargo, have a small squad, a 21 point deduction, no owners, are in Administration and on the brink of liquidation? Madness. The games gone. That was a waste of a Saturday morning scribbling that down. If you can't see the disparity and see the games gone I'll leave it with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravabeerbelly Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 46 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: That was a waste of a Saturday morning scribbling that down. If you can't see the disparity and see the games gone I'll leave it with you. Wasn’t a waste by any means. If you can’t see the ridiculousness of your comparison now then the games gone. I’m sick of this ‘poor Derby the worlds against us and everyone treats us unfairly’ narrative. Ill leave that with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ravabeerbelly said: Wasn’t a waste by any means. If you can’t see the ridiculousness of your comparison now then the games gone. I’m sick of this ‘poor Derby the worlds against us and everyone treats us unfairly’ narrative. Ill leave that with you. Might be in the minority there of 1 %. Ring up Buckinghamshire free press and offer your solidarity with Brian is my advice. RoyMac5 and Ravabeerbelly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich84 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 29/01/2022 at 11:56, Ravabeerbelly said: Not if that’s what the industry generates in revenue and sponsorship. Pro rata what Tom Cruise earns per minute for a Mission Impossible…. That's actually the point..... A good example of the ridiculousness as the industry ISN'T generating the level of revenue and sponsorship to sustain that kind of wage.... (your comment re Tom Cruise, his films tend to make a profit despite his salary!) You not seen the latest numbers of the debt Chelsea are in? Or the situation at Barcelona? I agree the fee is probably a fair price so long as there are good add ons if he develops as they hope, and I agree Lukaku is one of the best in the world, but these distorted salaries and transfer values at the top level is what has killed football imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravabeerbelly Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 On the bench for Chelsea tonight in the FA Cup v Luton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 30 minutes ago, Ravabeerbelly said: On the bench for Chelsea tonight in the FA Cup v Luton The curse of Derby seems to have followed him to Chelsea. I hope they survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Looks like they just did in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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