Kingpin Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, StrawHillRam said: Who is arguing our case ? We need a heavy hitter with passion and drive to counter all this bull from the efl and the two clubs extorting us Problem is they cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Just now, Scott129 said: I am also very worried about this. If by some miracle we survive, they're going to come down on us like a ton of bricks for literally anything. They won’t have long. If this debacle doesn’t usher in independent regulation then nothing will. EFL’s days as sole master of things is coming to an end IMO. Ramarena, Kingpin, Kathcairns and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motley Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Motley said: Agree….even if it’s to discuss other/all options e.g claims against Villa and QPR. Even if its success is unlikely it will let the EFL know the can of worms they are opening…..assume BAWT are all over this…..anyone from there reading this..?….do you need any assistance pursuing this with local solicitors..? Maybe the much talked about crowd fund could cover some of this cost….clearly a crowdfund would never go anywhere near enough to save the club, but i m sure fans would contribute to this cause to raise some thousands to Sue other clubs…….BAWT..?…drop me a line if I can assist. Ram1988 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Rick Parry…. Is there a vendetta against Derby or not ?? The Scarlet Pimpernel and jimtastic56 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Motley said: Agree….even if it’s to discuss other/all options e.g claims against Villa and QPR. Even if its success is unlikely it will let the EFL know the can of worms they are opening…..assume BAWT are all over this…..anyone from there reading this..?….do you need any assistance pursuing this with local solicitors..? Well said. Which supporter groups are active on the forum? To see if they are willing to help facilitate this. Maybe even contacting the University of Derby to see if any of its law lecturers or students can help raise awareness and look into things for us. Edited January 17, 2022 by Ram1988 Nishfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 17, 2022 Author Share Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, BondJovi said: Got to make sure they see it all. Got to find people who are really interested in us. A lot of them are going through the motions. Margaret Beckett sounded really on it. Edited January 17, 2022 by RoyMac5 Indy, Ellafella, CBRammette and 5 others 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motley Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ram1988 said: Well said. Which supporter groups are active on the forum? @Punjabi_Rams Anyone know how we can contact them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 17, 2022 Author Share Posted January 17, 2022 26 minutes ago, StrawHillRam said: Who is arguing our case ? We need a heavy hitter with passion and drive to counter all this bull from the efl and the two clubs extorting us Margaret Beckett seems well up for it on the political side. Indy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, Motley said: Anyone know how we can contact them? Black and White together, Rams Trust and Punjabi Rams spring to mind as supporter groups. I'm not if any of the chairs are actively on the forums though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 22 minutes ago, Needlesh said: Keep faith. They're at least being dug out to the extent that they've made a public comment for once. Some valid points on here already, and the EFL statement needs to be responded to. Keep at them. Keep shouting. Absolutely. The “we’re just applying the policy”line. Once the various MPs see through their veneer, they’ll be called out. Keep the faith. Their statement needs ripping to pieces. 2,000 words which say buggar all. Kathcairns and Ramarena 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 I read the statement and it looks as if they're saying we've got until the end of the season to wrap everything up, exit administration or its game over. In addition, they've reiterated the no new registration game putting us in an incredibly vulnerable position. The very fact they're having to clarify that they're not breaking laws or are pursuing a vendetta against our club just says it all though. Ramarena, Kathcairns and jimtastic56 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 17, 2022 Author Share Posted January 17, 2022 Just now, Ellafella said: Absolutely. The “we’re just applying the policy”line. Once the various MPs see through their veneer, they’ll be called out. Keep the faith. Their statement needs ripping to pieces. 2,000 words which say buggar all. Unfortunately most of them seem as clued up as the EFL. I'm sure this statement will placate most. And we'll have more comments telling us to be pragmatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Just now, RoyMac5 said: Margaret Beckett seems well up for it on the political side. Said it earlier Roy, forget political colour, you don’t want her to be your adversary in a debate, she’s not the sort of person that suffers fools or will back down. Actually think, she’s just the sort of probing politician we want on the case, she won’t be fobbed off easy and if she can see b.s from the EFL, I’d expect her to really get stuck into them. archram, RoyMac5, BarrowRam and 6 others 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/sport/football/60031718.amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 I don't see anything in that statement to get het up about, it's just a statement of fact. Wycombe can get in the bin, their claim is too late and hasn't been communicated even to the EFL. Boro have a claim predating administration, so have to be dealt with, even if that dealing with is like a small child demanding sweets at a supermarket checkout. The fact that our administrators haven't dealt with it is on them, all the EFL are needing is proof of funding until the end of the season, everything else can be dealt with between now and then. It's obviously too complex and difficult a job for them, so we'll probably cease to exist in our current form fairly shortly. Another magnificent Mel Morris decision to appoint them, I get the feeling he only opens his mouth to change feet. CBRammette, Maharan, Chris_D and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingpin Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, Rev said: we'll probably cease to exist in our current form fairly shortly. Still can’t see it. Caerphilly Ram, Ramifications and Zag zig 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rev said: I don't see anything in that statement to get het up about, it's just a statement of fact. Wycombe can get in the bin, their claim is too late and hasn't been communicated even to the EFL. Boro have a claim predating administration, so have to be dealt with, even if that dealing with is like a small child demanding sweets at a supermarket checkout. The fact that our administrators haven't dealt with it is on them, all the EFL are needing is proof of funding until the end of the season, everything else can be dealt with between now and then. It's obviously too complex and difficult a job for them, so we'll probably cease to exist in our current form fairly shortly. Another magnificent Mel Morris decision to appoint them, I get the feeling he only opens his mouth to change feet. The point is there would be zero need for Admin to provide proof of funding till the end of the season if the club came out of administration and became the responsibility of new owners who have separately provide their own proof. But the EFL are refusing to allow that to happen and instead trying to force a fire sale before the end of the window to ensure we won't be able to compete. With one breath they say "rules are rules" when their own insolvency rules say it's entirely at their discretion. With another breath they say they can't intervene in claims between member clubs, yet they also say they've invited all parties in for comment. If they're being honest then their claim is if they don't force Derby to be liquidated, Middlesbrough might sue the league which then might see the EFL being finished. I wish what I thought of the Bamfords would make it past the swear filter. Wsm-ram, Gritstone Ram, Indy and 8 others 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 35 minutes ago, Zag zig said: Said it earlier Roy, forget political colour, you don’t want her to be your adversary in a debate, she’s not the sort of person that suffers fools or will back down. Actually think, she’s just the sort of probing politician we want on the case, she won’t be fobbed off easy and if she can see b.s from the EFL, I’d expect her to really get stuck into them. I agree. This is a time to forget about party politics it's time to bring everyone together including our local MPs to fight for our club. Zag zig, Kathcairns, Ramewe and 1 other 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 17 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: The point is there would be zero need for Admin to provide proof of funding till the end of the season if the club came out of administration and became the responsibility of new owners who have separately provide their own proof. But the EFL are refusing to allow that to happen and instead trying to force a fire sale before the end of the window to ensure we won't be able to compete. With one breath they say "rules are rules" when their own insolvency rules say it's entirely at their discretion. With another breath they say they can't intervene in claims between member clubs, yet they also say they've invited all parties in for comment. If they're being honest then their claim is if they don't force Derby to be liquidated, Middlesbrough might sue the league which then might see the EFL being finished. I wish what I thought of the Bamfords would make it past the swear filter. You can't sue the league, can you? I thought that was a condition of membership? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 I have no memory of this - but his sudden departure sounds odd. Do we think this has any role to play? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/2811028/birch-leaves-Derby Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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