Tamworthram Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 44 minutes ago, I am Ram said: Instead of fighting over the club, thus delaying things, Chris,Mike, have a word with yourselves and buy the club together. Job done. I have the impression that MA isn’t the sort of boy who likes sharing his toys. I know nuffin, Dordogne-Ram, I am Ram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: In this exchange Nixon specifically says it's not a loan and Kirchner doesn't get the money back (if someone else is able to buy us) A couple of days ago when Dawes broke the 'collapse' story there was also talk about the end of Mays wages. Around then was when Nixon said CK had 'topped up' the money left in Q's account. I just found the amount of £1.6m a bit much then, but who knows. Yeah he's done a 'quick loan' whatever that is and no it's not refundable. Edited June 12, 2022 by RoyMac5 I know nuffin and jimtastic56 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimmerman Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, The Key Club King said: Considering what Derby fans have been through, his club-owning C.V looks pretty successful. At the point where Mel took over it seemed to be the best possible scenario for us and it's turned out to be the worst. Personally, I would be happy with any of the prospective bidders as keeping the club going is more important, and ownership can and does change fairly frequently. In summary, so long as it isn't Hitler, Kim Jong-Un or Kenny Burns, I'll be happy with anyone. Fawaz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Just now, Tamworthram said: I have the impression that MA isn’t the sort of boy who likes sharing his toys. Especially the advertising rights related to the ground…. Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobdeBilder Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 This whole mess comes down to one thing, succinctly put by that great character actor, Strother Martin, in Cool Hand Luke. "What we have here, is a failure to communicate". Ram-Alf, cstand, Ilkestonian and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuket Ram Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 15 minutes ago, Carnero said: We were told that the retention list has been submitted to the EFL, it's just hasn't been announced publically by DCFC or the EFL at this stage. DCFC Retention List: 1. the players end of list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihangel Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 47 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: Good morning folks. Quick Question: why is MA seen here as a previously successful football club owner? My opinion is that he took an established PL team down with bad management appointments. Gave out novelty Contracts. Ruined Derby’s promotion push by unsettling McClaren, stunk up the PL by not buying decent players and then finally succeeded by selling them to a country. He also invested 0 (zero) in infrastructure - Academy, stadium etc - That would be a depressing vision. jimtastic56 and Mostyn6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: But if it failed first time I don’t see why it would succeed the second time (assuming he used a traditional method originally). You can’t just probing until you find a route that bypasses checks. No but European clearing has been mentioned somewhere so perhaps just did transfer US to Uk within same bank and he is already an account holder so less checks or something so just provenance of funds to be checked so quicker? Who the heck knows or can try and find reasons for anything Derby at this point! I am sure if one transaction in a million is chosen randomly for enhanced security/AML checks taking 6 years you can bet it would be that one. Tamworthram, I know nuffin and Carnero 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: Which is what I said back on page 1920. Given how few clearing banks there are in the UK, and how sophisticated the banking systems are in the UK/US, I’d be amazed if the bank CK is alleged to have used to send the money didn’t have a relationship with Q’s bank or at the very least another UK clearing bank. It's probably Q's bank that is the problem knowing them ? EtoileSportiveDeDerby, CBRammette and Tamworthram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, BobdeBilder said: This whole mess comes down to one thing, succinctly put by that great character actor, Strother Martin, in Cool Hand Luke. "What we have here, is a failure to communicate". You got my hopes up there - thought we were going off tangent to discuss our Chrissie there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Carnero said: It's probably Q's bank that is the problem knowing them ? He hasn’t put a 6 instead of a 0 has he…..easy mistake to make ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, BobdeBilder said: This whole mess comes down to one thing, succinctly put by that great character actor, Strother Martin, in Cool Hand Luke. "What we have here, is a failure to communicate". I’m sure he communicated alright after eating all those boiled eggs ? nogbad van 50 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobdeBilder Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Jimbo Ram said: I’m sure he communicated alright after eating all those boiled eggs ? Bit of movie trivia. He never ate any of the eggs, he chewed them then spat them into a bucket. Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Carnero said: CLOWES! It's CLOWES! Goddammit. CLOWNS! It's CLOWNS! Goddammit. Everyone involved in this Derby County takeover is a clown. ? Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 1 minute ago, BobdeBilder said: Bit of movie trivia. He never ate any of the eggs, he chewed them then spat them into a bucket. Who, Paul Newmans character? Really? So he cheated ? You learn something new every day ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: In this exchange Nixon specifically says it's not a loan and Kirchner doesn't get the money back (if someone else is able to buy us) How did he transfer the 1.6m ? That was too low a value for aml checks? I know nuffin, CBX1985 and Carl Sagan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, BobdeBilder said: Bit of movie trivia. He never ate any of the eggs, he chewed them then spat them into a bucket. Just double-checked, Cool Hand Luke does….but obviously Paul Newman doesn’t ? nogbad van 50 and IslandExile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Stockport Ram said: Nearly at the next great Landmark Page, 1946. Thought I'd help it along a bit..... Same here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 1 minute ago, StrawHillRam said: Same here Same here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood P Dowd Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: But if it failed first time I don’t see why it would succeed the second time (assuming he used a traditional method originally). You can’t just probing until you find a route that bypasses checks. It is worrying that the people advising CK did not organise the money transfer for him, if they did organise the money transfer for CK then you certainly have to question the level of expertise they had. My worry about CK is that he may have to funds to buy the club but does he have the funds to get us back into the Championship or sustain us in the long term, I'm not sure the club would survive another round of uncertainty\turmoil like the last few years. I do have some sympathy with Q regarding MA, if MA wasn't prepared to provide the best return for the creditors, remember this is what the Administrators are tasked to obtain, why would they want to waste their time talking to him. Q's time was best utilised concentrating on the bid that will provide the best return for the creditors. Given our past record with potential "New Owners" its understandable that we all have reservations any potential "New Owners" simply because we have no way of knowing what they will do once they are in control of our club. Edited June 12, 2022 by Elwood P Dowd Indy, Tamworthram and IslandExile 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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