GeneralRam Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, Ramos said: Only thing I didn’t understand was Kieran’s points about credit card companies pulling out of EFL? People who have bought tickets will be able to do a charge back. When you buy off the credit card and don’t receive your goods, you claim from your credit card company if you don’t get a refund. Ramos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Pretty sure I remember when I first bought a season ticket (maybe 2005ish), you couldn’t use a credit card for those very reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, CheshRam said: Is there any chance that a creditor (such as Geldards) takes legal action against the EFL to protect their interests as a genuine creditor? Could they get other creditors on board to take a joint action? We do know a creditor... @David... You might need to crowd fund his legal costs though ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipley Ram Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Has anyone seen this? https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1483553491113193478 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Shipley Ram said: Has anyone seen this? https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1483553491113193478 Morris doesn't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsmini Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 curious on Colin Murray’s show they hinted that Morris could help by putting the stadium into administration, a similar situation happened at Portsmouth apparently. Also Morris could go from bad guy to slightly better guy by offering to underwrite the claims by Boro and Wycombe. That way a new owner would not have the problem hanging over them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaahnRam Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, GboroRam said: Morris doesn't care. Incredibly disappointed with MM actions to get us to this point but just paying off MFC without any legal judication leaves a sour taste too surely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 25 minutes ago, TaahnRam said: Incredibly disappointed with MM actions to get us to this point but just paying off MFC without any legal judication leaves a sour taste too surely He could offer to underwrite them, ie take on responsibility for whatever happens with them. That way the purchase could proceed, and if by some miracle the claims turn out to be something actually worth worrying about, the cost can never go on the club. Of course, Morris is never going to do that. He's washed his hands of the place, and honestly stands as having the worst impact on the club in its entire history. What a shambles. RoyMac5, Andicis, r_wilcockson and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Albert said: He's washed his hands of the place, and honestly stands as having the worst impact on the club in its entire history. What a shambles. You’ve done well when you’ve wrought more damage than Robert Maxwell and Jeremy Keith. What a legacy… RoyMac5, Abu Derby, MackworthRamIsGod and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 38 minutes ago, Shipley Ram said: Has anyone seen this? https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1483553491113193478 Blimey he's gullible . What's he meeting him for, is he buying Leo Sayers wig collection Will Hughes Hair, Kathcairns, GB SPORTS and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 46 minutes ago, StaffsRam said: You’ve done well when you’ve wrought more damage than Robert Maxwell and Jeremy Keith. What a legacy… Mel was here to leave a legacy, not to leave a club, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Some forest wet wipe has set up this petition Make Derby County pay the £39m outstanding to HMRC John Smith started this petition Derby County have ab outstanding tax bill of £29m. Along with a significant amount to Derby Council. Derby are currently in administration and are actively negotiating to reduce these debts. This cannot be allowed to happen. Rewarding profligate behaviour and a refusal to pay taxes hurts us all. Why should the public stump any money up for a badly run business. Force Derby to sell all assets and pay the tax they owe, its right and its fair. If you disagree try not paying your council tax next month. Why are Derby special. They aren't. Make them pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 5 hours ago, Caerphilly Ram said: Good points being made on 5Live about the wider impact it would have on the EFL, the championship, and football in general if we were to go bust, suggesting it’s in no one’s interests for us to disappear and has a knock affect to other clubs revenues, tv audiences for the league(s) etc etc. that’s reassuring to hear, hoping it proves to be true! Factually true but the parasite owners of two football clubs don’t care as they are the selfish ones - we need external people to be saying what these two individuals are doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 5 hours ago, Caerphilly Ram said: Bit of an odd one wasn’t it? Perhaps suggesting if a club the size of Derby went under the CC companies would lose faith in the financial viability of football clubs in general? If people like myself purchase a season ticket over £100 I can claim my money back if I don’t get what I paid for - when nearly 99% of football clubs are losing huge amounts of money every year they are going to fail and credit card company’s will suffer a lot so why leave yourself exposed. It’s even worse when a competitive business /football clubs do everything they can to make other clubs fold and the administrator /EFL allows the practice to happen and openly encourages it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 5 hours ago, Ramos said: They have tbh. Also Kieran and Colin Murray just made some excellent points about why the EFL cannot let Derby go bust and Kieran referred to the fact Derby is one of the EFLs biggest pulls and a fellow championship chief exec has talked to him about why it can’t happen. Colin seemed strangely positive about the survival considering all that’s going on. That fellow championship exec needs to be publicly calling out what the EFL and the 2 parasites are doing then. RoyMac5 and Kathcairns 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 4 hours ago, GboroRam said: Morris doesn't care. Neither does Gibson - Morris is gone and Gibson is the one with the EFL who are liquidating us with 3 buyers stood by. GB SPORTS, GboroRam and RoyMac5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 4 hours ago, rsmini said: curious on Colin Murray’s show they hinted that Morris could help by putting the stadium into administration, a similar situation happened at Portsmouth apparently. Also Morris could go from bad guy to slightly better guy by offering to underwrite the claims by Boro and Wycombe. That way a new owner would not have the problem hanging over them Not sure how the stadium being in a different company can be put into administration but how would that help - Bury gigg lane has been sold off for the land to raise money to pay creditors - we could easily lose it forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Blimey he's gullible . What's he meeting him for, is he buying Leo Sayers wig collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Some forest wet wipe has set up this petition Make Derby County pay the £39m outstanding to HMRC John Smith started this petition Derby County have ab outstanding tax bill of £29m. Along with a significant amount to Derby Council. Derby are currently in administration and are actively negotiating to reduce these debts. This cannot be allowed to happen. Rewarding profligate behaviour and a refusal to pay taxes hurts us all. Why should the public stump any money up for a badly run business. Force Derby to sell all assets and pay the tax they owe, its right and its fair. If you disagree try not paying your council tax next month. Why are Derby special. They aren't. Make them pay. What an individual of limited future to the betterment of the nation - when liquidated what’s left gets sold if able to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Carl Sagan, Ramarena, ariotofmyown and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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