Ghost of Clough Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, richinspain said: That's 6 ? I was going to exclude the CF then changed my mind ? richinspain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I thought he was one of the better players first half vs Birmingham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I don't think he was too bad yesterday, it was more the lack of options when he was on the ball, at times you could see he was almost throwing his hand out asking for an option. We seemed very slow yesterday, no one offering when we were in possession. The whole team was very negative yesterday. Look at their second goal, Plange had the ball in their corner and no one made any kind of effort to help him. Lets not try and make a very promising youngster with only a handful of appearances into a scapegoat, that would be a new low, even for some on here. Ramrob, hintonsboots, bcnram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, ollycutts1982 said: I don't think he was too bad yesterday, it was more the lack of options when he was on the ball, at times you could see he was almost throwing his hand out asking for an option. We seemed very slow yesterday, no one offering when we were in possession. The whole team was very negative yesterday. Look at their second goal, Plange had the ball in their corner and no one made any kind of effort to help him. Lets not try and make a very promising youngster with only a handful of appearances into a scapegoat, that would be a new low, even for some on here. There was more than once that a forward run into space was made which he chose to ignore and pass back to the defence. He's young, he'll gain experience. But saying he was good when he wasn't won't help. Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, ollycutts1982 said: I don't think he was too bad yesterday, it was more the lack of options when he was on the ball, at times you could see he was almost throwing his hand out asking for an option. We seemed very slow yesterday, no one offering when we were in possession. The whole team was very negative yesterday. Look at their second goal, Plange had the ball in their corner and no one made any kind of effort to help him. Lets not try and make a very promising youngster with only a handful of appearances into a scapegoat, that would be a new low, even for some on here. No one has made him a scapegoat, there were at least 2 worse than him yesterday, but if we can't constructively dicuss players form and team selection, what is the point of being on a football forum. ollycutts1982 and jimtastic56 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Liam has seemed to lost a little bit of the bravery he certainly showed in his first few games. But dips in form are natural and also I do think in the context of the game he was very often being closed down by Birmingham players clearly trying to use their physical size. Hes clearly got so much talent and him and bielik and bird all playing a 3 could be a really creative force in the run in. Hopefully he regains a little bit of that bravery but the team itself has not played well in 3 of the last 4 games for me and has still picked up a number of points which is promising. sage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, RoyMac5 said: There was more than once that a forward run into space was made which he chose to ignore and pass back to the defence. He's young, he'll gain experience. But saying he was good when he wasn't won't help. Fair point, I didn't say he was good but certainly no worse than most others out there. I didn't think Festy was particularly great yesterday. But again, he is a young player and will learn and develop with more game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 This isn’t a dig at Thompson (I thought he was one of our better players in the first half), but when did we decide that EVERY passing move has to go through Allsop? Couldn’t string two passes together in the first half before it went back to the GK. Just seemed…odd ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, StaffsRam said: This isn’t a dig at Thompson (I thought he was one of our better players in the first half), but when did we decide that EVERY passing move has to go through Allsop? Couldn’t string two passes together in the first half before it went back to the GK. Just seemed…odd ?♂️ Often he was the only one in space Sparkle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, sage said: Often he was the only one in space More than once they gave it to him when he wasn’t! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, StaffsRam said: More than once they gave it to him when he wasn’t! ? That just adds to the excitement ? Carl Sagan, Ghost of Clough and StaffsRam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott129 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Thought Thompson played well overall yesterday, but Bird's horror show of a performance really dragged him down. I don't think Liam's the sort of player who can single-handedly grab a midfield by the scruff of the neck and take control (or at least not yet anyway). He needed some help from his midfield partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I think Liam finds himself in a bit of the same situation as Bird last year - too often taking the more safe option, sideways or backwards. But that's probably his role right now - get hold of the ball and move it either to safety, or to Bird for the more creative option He's in his first season as a pro. Considering he looks about 5ft-nowt and like a stiff breeze would knock him over, he's a tenacious bugger who's mixing it with some of the best in this league and not looking outclassed by any stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, Scott129 said: Thought Thompson played well overall yesterday, but Bird's horror show of a performance really dragged him down. I don't think Liam's the sort of player who can single-handedly grab a midfield by the scruff of the neck and take control (or at least not yet anyway). He needed some help from his midfield partner. Interestingly I thought it was vice versa with Thompson taking too wide a position defensively and leaving Bird having to take chances to move us forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott129 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, sage said: Interestingly I thought it was vice versa with Thompson taking too wide a position defensively and leaving Bird having to take chances to move us forward. I would agree - Bird was trying to move us forward and he was taking chances. But there were so many misplaced passes, running directly into Brum players, getting caught in possession, etc. He's usually so good at keeping the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Scott129 said: I would agree - Bird was trying to move us forward and he was taking chances. But there were so many misplaced passes, running directly into Brum players, getting caught in possession, etc. He's usually so good at keeping the ball. I think because he was being outnumbered. Bird and Bielik will be an immense partnership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicman Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 The whole team was below par in the first half as Brum nullified us playing 3 up front. We only improved when Bielik came on and we took the game into their half more. Thomo has been outstanding and like Bird will be a key player for years. I am going to annoyed like many others if they sell Plange to Palace today ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, sage said: No one has made him a scapegoat, there were at least 2 worse than him yesterday, but if we can't constructively dicuss players form and team selection, what is the point of being on a football forum. Bloody hell mate, coming on here turning a decent young player into a scapegoat. What’s the matter with you? As for reasons you might come on a football forum: 1 no proper friends 2 locked in bedroom 3 grooming purpose 4 keep up to date with COVID news 5 accountancy and insolvency training 6 poor pun based humour Boycie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, i-Ram said: Bloody hell mate, coming on here turning a decent young player into a scapegoat. What’s the matter with you? As for reasons you might come on a football forum: 1 no proper friends 2 locked in bedroom 3 grooming purpose 4 keep up to date with COVID news 5 accountancy and insolvency training 6 poor pun based humour Well all of those as well i-Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: There was more than once that a forward run into space was made which he chose to ignore and pass back to the defence. He's young, he'll gain experience. But saying he was good when he wasn't won't help. It's so easy to see space when you are up in the stands without seeing the line of vision that the player has. He makes mistakes, of course he does but in my view is well worth his place in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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