I know nuffin Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Now stevi nic on Derbyshire live is saying Appleby and gadsby are not making a joint bid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, I know nuffin said: Now stevi nic on Derbyshire live is saying Appleby and gadsby are not making a joint bid I think most people called Nixon BS on that one. Probably more chance of Marino Rahmberg being part of the next ownership group than Nixon being right on this. Based on some of the crap we’ve seen, I genuinely think some of posts on here this afternoon would be worthy of modern day national journalism standards and actually more credible!! ? jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, ilkleyram said: Ah but what if McClaren is involved as an ex player rather than as an ex manager? Just to add more wild speculation with no knowledge inside or outside You contacted the sun yet? They’ll probably run with it. jimtastic56 and ilkleyram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, I know nuffin said: Now stevi nic on Derbyshire live is saying Appleby and gadsby are not making a joint bid He's the last in the food chain of information, Nixon makes it up, It goes to twitter to add a little more, Message boards have confirmed the appointment and SN picks up all the chick feed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Part of Athletic article “ What “extremely positive” means is unclear. While it is important to remain optimistic during these uncertain times, fans should note that the likelihood of the taxman reducing the total amount of Derby’s debt is unlikely. Another stumbling block continues to be the status of Pride Park, which is owned by Morris and provides collateral against the £20 million loan taken from MSD Holdings, the British subsidiary of MSD Capital. MSD — an American private equity firm that manages the capital of Michael Dell, the founder and CEO of Dell Technologies — and Morris have a “verbal agreement” with Quantuma to include the ground in the sale of the club. Co-administrator Carl Jackson admitted all potential bidders see Pride Park as a significant asset that they would like to be part of the package in buying Derby. Quantuma has not released the figure that has been verbally agreed upon with Morris to part with the stadium, but the lack of a concrete agreement continues to be a concern as Morris could opt to increase his asking price, even if MSD influences the decision. In addition, the administrators will meet with Middlesbrough and Wycombeonce they have announced the preferred bidder. Middlesbrough chairman Steve Gibson’s gripe is that Derby earned the final play-off spot ahead of them in 2018-19, with a squad financed in a manner sanctioned by the EFL for breaching profitability and sustainability rules. Similarly, Wycombe feel aggrieved that they should not have been relegated to League One at the expense of a club found guilty of breaking the rules. However, the administrators are positive and want the situation sorted without having to entertain legal cases.” jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Ex Manager: Lampard Ex Player: Cole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Its Ashley Ward, he now runs an old people 's home and will be in charge of our defence. jimtastic56, GB SPORTS, Steve How Hard? and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 So, I guess we are set on going full Harchester United, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Franny 'bog roll' Lee and Con Blatsis jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Ex Manager: Lampard Ex Player: Cole Not a bad shout - certainly both settled in well when they were here. Also would be interested to know why Lampard abruptly ended his interest in the Norwich job middle of November - don't think there'd be many better gigs for him at that level. My guess for ex-manager was Cocu - he was more invested in Derby as a 'project' than any other manager we've had & always felt he was as interested in building a club as purely coaching/managing My guess for ex-player was Steve Howard, mainly off the back of below tweets; Edited December 20, 2021 by LeedsCityRam Miggins and jimtastic56 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 32 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Ex Manager: Lampard Ex Player: Cole Funnily enough, I thought of Cole, purely because someone mentioned Lamps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eccles the ram Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Ex player:Stimac Former manager: McClaren But what do I know? Pure conjecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverurie Ram Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Ex Manager: Roy McFarland Ex Player: Roy McFarland Journalists moustache down to Pride Park to spot Roy having a coffee with the administrators and to get the story off their chests! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 38 minutes ago, Curtains said: Part of Athletic article “ What “extremely positive” means is unclear. While it is important to remain optimistic during these uncertain times, fans should note that the likelihood of the taxman reducing the total amount of Derby’s debt is unlikely. Another stumbling block continues to be the status of Pride Park, which is owned by Morris and provides collateral against the £20 million loan taken from MSD Holdings, the British subsidiary of MSD Capital. MSD — an American private equity firm that manages the capital of Michael Dell, the founder and CEO of Dell Technologies — and Morris have a “verbal agreement” with Quantuma to include the ground in the sale of the club. Co-administrator Carl Jackson admitted all potential bidders see Pride Park as a significant asset that they would like to be part of the package in buying Derby. Quantuma has not released the figure that has been verbally agreed upon with Morris to part with the stadium, but the lack of a concrete agreement continues to be a concern as Morris could opt to increase his asking price, even if MSD influences the decision. In addition, the administrators will meet with Middlesbrough and Wycombeonce they have announced the preferred bidder. Middlesbrough chairman Steve Gibson’s gripe is that Derby earned the final play-off spot ahead of them in 2018-19, with a squad financed in a manner sanctioned by the EFL for breaching profitability and sustainability rules. Similarly, Wycombe feel aggrieved that they should not have been relegated to League One at the expense of a club found guilty of breaking the rules. However, the administrators are positive and want the situation sorted without having to entertain legal cases.” Don’t know about this. The numbers suggest HMRC has the power to put us into liquidation. So surely they will agree some kind of haircut. And deferring payment doesn’t solve the problem because it reduces the purchase price. And the verbal deal with MM/MSD about the stadium price? Well the price will be decided by a valuer, and the cash I think goes to MSD then the club. And the idea it is a problem only to have a verbal agreement with MSD is loopy. Quantuma is largely working for MSD in reality don’t think The Athletic are on top of this at all jimtastic56, RAM1966, jono and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: Don’t know about this. The numbers suggest HMRC has the power to put us into liquidation. So surely they will agree some kind of haircut. And deferring payment doesn’t solve the problem because it reduces the purchase price. And the verbal deal with MM/MSD about the stadium price? Well the price will be decided by a valuer, and the cash I think goes to MSD then the club. And the idea it is a problem only to have a verbal agreement with MSD is loopy. Quantuma is largely working for MSD in reality don’t think The Athletic are on top of this at all I think the article was rubbish. And Nixon's too. jimtastic56, I know nuffin, kevinhectoring and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM1966 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: Don’t know about this. The numbers suggest HMRC has the power to put us into liquidation. So surely they will agree some kind of haircut. And deferring payment doesn’t solve the problem because it reduces the purchase price. And the verbal deal with MM/MSD about the stadium price? Well the price will be decided by a valuer, and the cash I think goes to MSD then the club. And the idea it is a problem only to have a verbal agreement with MSD is loopy. Quantuma is largely working for MSD in reality don’t think The Athletic are on top of this at all Agree with most of that, no chance of HMRC giving us a penny reduction. They let Bury go pop over £500k we owe more than 50 times that amount..... Edited December 20, 2021 by RAM1966 jimtastic56 and I know nuffin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 minute ago, RAM1966 said: Agree with most of that, no chance of HMRC giving us a penny reduction. They let Bury go pop over £500k we owe more than 50 times that amount..... Bury did not go into liquidation. Bury were not paying their players , couldn't fulfil their fixtures, so were expelled by EFL. They are due to resume competitive football in 2022/3. jono, Derby4Me, LeedsCityRam and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: I think the article was rubbish. And Nixon's too. Think they get the source of some articles from here. Cannot wait to read about Franny Lee taking us over jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: I think the article was rubbish. And Nixon's too. We have more idea than they do. For example administrators are on something vital now. Other that the story changing what other excuse have they for not releasing the meetings minutes. Didn't get that from the athletic or the Sun jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, RAM1966 said: Agree with most of that, no chance of HMRC giving us a penny reduction. They let Bury go pop over £500k we owe more than 50 times that amount..... I think it’s hard to compare these situations. HMRC represented less than 10% of Bury’s creditor base. Is there evidence HMRC’s position was the problem? I’d have thought more likely it was the main secured creditor ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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