Leeds Ram Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Like mining areas that went under under the Milk Snatcher, not just the miners that suffered....cafes, shops, pubs etc..... Exactly, the mines closing down is a good example for this as it wasn't so much the mines going (More mines had been closed before Thatcher than during her reign) but the fact that nothing really replaced them. This led to the catastrophic effects that we still see today. I think if Derby county went there is nothing to really replace it for a good decade or more providing it all went well. r_wilcockson and Kathcairns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, rammieib said: I disagree with this. A good thriving economy, like we have had, creates more jobs, more jobs is more money invested and so on. We now have more people in employment in the UK than we have ever had. (Circa 27 Million). Ultimately, you want people spending. If those four season tickets are not purchased, than means the individual may save the money and not spend it. That's bad. That's what I'd do - and I'd stick the money in an ISA so the buggers couldn't even get a nibble on my interest.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Lots of miserable people on here - get a grip of yourselves ? At least they've provided a name for any phoenox club if the worst haappens - Bedwetters United..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: So it isn’t capitalism. Derby were not controlled by private owners for profit. As I didn't bring in Capitalism i'll at best try and answer your statement. Our then owner was a business man in a Capitalist sociaty, He was able to make money through his ventures, With that MM decides to use his wealth for DCFCs benefit, Now...Derby were not controlled by private owners for profit, The old adage is...how do you become a Millionair, Start off by being a Billionaire and buy a football club, Fact DCFC this last few seasons didn't make a profit, Did MM think DCFC were going to make a profit?...that I do not know neither do many other people as we didn't know what went through MMs mind when purchasing DCFC. I sincerely hope you will accept and or agree with this reasoning. Best Regards Alf the Unlucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gaspode said: At least they've provided a name for any phoenox club if the worst haappens - Bedwetters United..... Or KarlMarxRams Ununited Citizen Smith (Foxy) will be pleased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 23 minutes ago, Gaspode said: That's what I'd do - and I'd stick the money in an ISA so the buggers couldn't even get a nibble on my interest.... A nibble on 0.00001% of interest on an ISA would be 0.0000000000000000001%, The buggers wouldn't even taste it. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Unlucky Alf said: A nibble on 0.00001% of interest on an ISA would be 0.0000000000000000001%, The buggers wouldn't even taste it. anything at all is too much ? Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 29 minutes ago, Unlucky Alf said: As I didn't bring in Capitalism i'll at best try and answer your statement. Our then owner was a business man in a Capitalist sociaty, He was able to make money through his ventures, With that MM decides to use his wealth for DCFCs benefit, Now...Derby were not controlled by private owners for profit, The old adage is...how do you become a Millionair, Start off by being a Billionaire and buy a football club, Fact DCFC this last few seasons didn't make a profit, Did MM think DCFC were going to make a profit?...that I do not know neither do many other people as we didn't know what went through MMs mind when purchasing DCFC. I sincerely hope you will accept and or agree with this reasoning. Best Regards Alf the Unlucky I accept everything you say. for all the moralising going one here I think what has happened here is terrible for the fans, creditors , people with jobs etc. But not very high on the immorality scale .. just careless , reckless and more than a bit unlucky. But really isn’t even unethical according to the report by qunatuma leave alone illegal contrary to what some has suggested. kevinhectoring and Ram-Alf 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 4 hours ago, BramcoteRam84 said: He’s also a Derby fan. Genuinely. Remember he used to review sports headlines as a guest sometimes on talk sport breakfast. Wasn’t at the Mail then. Yes my mistake it’s Craig Hope who is the Mail NE correspondent. My only excuse is the cocktail of drugs the Derby Royal are pumping in me BramcoteRam84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 26 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: Yes my mistake it’s Craig Hope who is the Mail NE correspondent. My only excuse is the cocktail of drugs the Derby Royal are pumping in me Was the Opp a success or are you waiting?, I'll follow the answer in the next Appendix Reggie Greenwood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Just now, Unlucky Alf said: Was the Opp a success or are you waiting?, I'll follow the answer in the next Appendix Trying to treat it with antibiotics. They want to avoid an Op because I bleed a lot. Been in here since Saturday trying to find one bit of food that’s not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eatonram Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 I wonder if a Daily Mail journalist or The Athletic or even someone local may want to ask Middlesborough why they feel they are owed £45 Million and how is that broken down. They dont seem to mind analysing our finances in detail. Crewton, Derby4Me, RadioactiveWaste and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRam Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 When the Admin meet the HMC, can't they get the Mayor, or a sitting MP to accompany them to plead the case for the City of Derby, and add their weight to the presentation??? I'd go myself but ............................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarterForTen Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Leeds Ram said: I'm not an economist (my expertise is in political theory) but if you allow big institutions in local communities to fail that does have an impact on the local economy. Think of all the DCFC employees, the pubs and restaurants that do business around the area on match days etc. etc. that will be affected if the club goes under. It would have a ripple effect that harms businesses in the area that would have a further effect etc. Absolutely right, but that's looking at it purely in local terms. As far as HMRC's overall Tax revenues are concerned it will make not a jot of difference, that's the point I was attempting to make. It was just a counter to the idea that HMRC might consider future lost revenues from DCFC if the entity was liquidated - they won't. As I have said all along, pragmatism will ALWAYS win the day, and that means HMRC will take what they can and move on. Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: Trying to treat it with antibiotics. They want to avoid an Op because I bleed a lot. Been in here since Saturday trying to find one bit of food that’s not ? My sypathys are with you, The NHS is a great place to be if your ill, But the food...well...been there done that, Chin up Reg ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, DesertRam said: When the Admin meet the HMC, can't they get the Mayor, or a sitting MP to accompany them to plead the case for the City of Derby, and add their weight to the presentation??? I'd go myself but ............................... Let me guess, You're not a Mayor or an elected MP DesertRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Half a cup is always better than no cup at all ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarterForTen Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, Rab a dab doo said: Half a cup is always better than no cup at all ! Is that Nottingham Forest's club motto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 3 hours ago, rammieib said: Not that smart - the tactic didn't work to reduce the points. We still got minus 21. They said that making the appeal was largely tactical in order to bring the EFL to the table regarding the additional points deduction rather than allowing it to drag on and put at risk a potential takeover. So, the tactic did work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 32 minutes ago, Unlucky Alf said: Was the Opp a success or are you waiting?, I'll follow the answer in the next Appendix Like what you did there. Waiting on a appendicectomy ? Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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