Gritstone Ram Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Anyone else agree? Wayne has called them out. We never get the decision. I’m not saying they aren’t equally bad for the opposition but I think there’s a little bias in there. I reckon they have an agenda. Maybe Wayne is right and it is due to all the goings on. Does this make it sport? Surely things should be even! Comrade 86, Kathcairns and Colm 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Today's handball was right in front of me, blatant penno. Gritstone Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) All our games have been officiated by Gibbo. Edited October 16, 2021 by hintonsboots Chris_Martin, Norman, Gritstone Ram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 We got a genuinely corrupt referee in the 70s so yeah why not Kathcairns and Gritstone Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the refs we get, also referee other teams on another week? Is the claim that they're only poo towards us and acceptable everywhere else? Is that supported by any evidence? MuespachRam and jono 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted October 16, 2021 Author Share Posted October 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the refs we get, also referee other teams on another week? Is the claim that they're only poo towards us and acceptable everywhere else? Is that supported by any evidence? Don’t start putting any objective views on here. This is a we’re behind Wazza on this. The refs have it in for us. Van der MoodHoover, Comrade 86 and jono 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gritstone Ram said: Don’t start putting any objective views on here. This is a we’re behind Wazza on this. The refs have it in for us. Mea culpa...... I will learn my lines.... "The Wazzster is a victim....." "The Wazzster is a victim....." "The Wazzster is..." ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 30 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the refs we get, also referee other teams on another week? Is the claim that they're only poo towards us and acceptable everywhere else? Is that supported by any evidence? Not really sure why their performance in other games matters? And to be honest, if today's mob are that bad every game, they really need sacking. They're paid to do a job after all. Every team gets bad calls, this much is true, but when it's almost every game, it's only natural that folk start to ask questions. Some of the officiating this season and to a lesser extent, the 2nd half of last season too, has been bewildering in it's ineptitude. Ellafella, Ram-Alf, Kathcairns and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Not really sure why their performance in other games matters? And to be honest, if today's mob are that bad every game, they really need sacking. They're paid to do a job after all. Every team gets bad calls, this much is true, but when it's almost every game, it's only natural that folk start to ask questions. Some of the officiating this season and to a lesser extent, the 2nd half of last season too, has been bewildering in it's ineptitude. It's logic. We get poo refs because that is all there is. Simples. No conspiracy, just poo. Norman and Ram-Alf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: It's logic. We get poo refs because that is all there is. Simples. No conspiracy, just poo. All well and good but I haven't said it's a conspiracy. I'm saying we're getting too many bad calls and it's fair enough to ask questions. By your 'logic' we should benefit from as many 'poo refs' calls as we lose out on, but that's not been the case. I think Wayne bringing it up is just what any and every manager does when they feel too many calls are going the wrong way. Ellafella, Gritstone Ram and Kathcairns 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Anyone watch the Championship highlights on Quest? Not that I've got an axe to grind or owt, but Blackpool were robbed. Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewe Ram Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Sounds like Wayne threw down the gauntlet. Get us some answers Gritstone Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 11 hours ago, Gritstone Ram said: Anyone else agree? Wayne has called them out. We never get the decision. I’m not saying they aren’t equally bad for the opposition but I think there’s a little bias in there. I reckon they have an agenda. Maybe Wayne is right and it is due to all the goings on. Does this make it sport? Surely things should be even! Absolutely. It happens to us on such a regular basis now that it isn’t just chance. All teams will of course claim the refs don’t give the decisions their way but it’s starting to go beyond that. We have committed amongst the fewest fouls but have amongst the highest yellow cards. We’ve had several blatant penalties not given - 2 against the red dogs were the most nailed on in decades of watching football. Im not suggesting a full on conspiracy where all referees gathered at a country hotel for a weekend and put together a dossier of” “do’s and Don’ts” when reffing the Rams “ but there is something more subtler going on - a culture of bias against Derby widespread amongst championship refs. It’s quite clear to me and WR is right to call it out. angieram, Kathcairns, Gritstone Ram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 12 hours ago, Coconut's Beard said: We got a genuinely corrupt referee in the 70s so yeah why not Too true...proven in later years, Helmut Haller(German)was from the same town as the German referee, Peter Taylor went into the refs dressing room at HT to challenge the Ref and Haller was in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I posted this on the Preston thread...more appropriate here The concerning thing is this..."Officials"..., No doubt most if not all clubs would want a fare minded official, There appears to be 1 common denominator with us...the non awarding of penalties, With WR now putting it on record that he believes we're not getting what he thinks are penalties...a man who keeps his own observations to a minimum...but 2 things, He now feels under pressure(because of our 12 point penalty) to complain about those in the middle...which I don't feel he is, Or he has a genuine grievance. Reading the match day posts on here after every game and they can be a little blinkered, But there's enough posters on here that have a belief we're being harshly treated for 1 reason or another, Is there a conspiracy...I very much doubt it, Do the match officials know about our predicament...they certainly do, Has this any influence on how we're judged for the whole period of the game...ask them and the answer will be a resounding NO! If the officials believe what some other teams Chairmen say about us "Cheating" then unfortunately there's more poor officials coming our way. Ellafella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FindernRam Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I have friends who are keen fans of other clubs (yeah I know but it is what it is ) and they also feel they are really hard done by by referees. Villa, Brum, even Liverpool. so its not just us and its not just clubs that are struggling. But I have long held a theory that the colour of your strip and in particular your shirt and socks makes you more or less visible to the ref/linesman. Short sleeve grey please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Watched the highlights from yesterday's Championship games and the amount of poor decisions made by many of the refs was disconcerting to say the least. So it's not just us that are suffering from poo refs. But it does feel like we are getting an unfair share of these poor decisions. If we're to believe that old adage, that decisions even themselves out over the season. Then we must be due a glut of penalties awarded in our favour before Christmas. Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Swansea just had a great penalty claim turned down, Linesman right in view...not just us then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 It's not just us that have valid complaints, but it seems to have been happening to us for as long as I can remember and all too often in crucial games where those decisions directly affected the outcome of games. I can't help but think that pretty soon a groundswell of demands for VAR in the Championship will lead to the inevitable. I can accept genuine errors - officials unsighted, convincing deception by an opponent - but when it's blindingly obvious to a large number of spectators, it's totally unacceptable. Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Crewton said: It's not just us that have valid complaints, but it seems to have been happening to us for as long as I can remember and all too often in crucial games where those decisions directly affected the outcome of games. I can't help but think that pretty soon a groundswell of demands for VAR in the Championship will lead to the inevitable. I can accept genuine errors - officials unsighted, convincing deception by an opponent - but when it's blindingly obvious to a large number of spectators, it's totally unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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