plymouthram Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 On 09/11/2021 at 19:52, Abu Derby said: The adjournment has been taken to allow Gibbo, that idiot from Wycombe and that Plop bloke from Bristol to have their say in the matter. Apparantly they are all meeting at Rick Parry's house and Gibbon's bringing the cake(which he wants to eat). jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Let’s just get all the points penalties now and start next season fresh with a new owner in League One. People saying -21 points is the worst case scenario. it isn’t at all. We’re already going down with -12 points. Worst case scenario is relegation and then for the financial irregularity / punishment points deduction to happen in League One. Starting next season in League One with zero points, a new owner and no hanging points deduction is among the best case scenarios. jono, ariotofmyown, Colm and 10 others 5 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: If this is true, and we do get a 21 point deduction, I seriously hope someone at Derby County FC compiles a very strongly worded presser confirming our disappointment with the EFL's decision, and our overall regret of the outcome. That'll learn 'em! Well not really. Because the EFL only complain to the press if an independent panel reaches a decision they disagree with . If an EFL comprising Ridsdale , Gibson and co come up with a decision we should accept it meekly because they are much more careful with their spending and always act with utmost integrity. Ask Gibson's chauffeur and as everyone knows Ridsdale is whiter than white. Mucker1884 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, StrawHillRam said: I’d love To see how the penalty actually breaks down We got a penalty? Dimmu, ossieram, r_wilcockson and 6 others 1 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Hughes Hair Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 31 minutes ago, Reverend said: You may not believe this but Sir David Frost is a Derby lad. I went to school with him and he was a Derby supporter! Assuming you’re referring to Lord Frost of Brexit fame rather than the bloke famous for interviewing Nixon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: Let’s just get all the points penalties now and start next season fresh with a new owner in League One. People saying -21 points is the worst case scenario. it isn’t at all. We’re already going down with -12 points. Worst case scenario is relegation and then for the financial irregularity / punishment points deduction to happen in League One. Starting next season in League One with zero points, a new owner and no hanging points deduction is among the best case scenarios. If we go down more than 12 points behind safety that one carries over into next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 30 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Anyone believing that they can achieve some sort of beast-level catharsis by making others as miserable as they feel is in for a nasty shock. Writing down one's reasons for feeling sad or anxious, or annotating those feelings, is a million miles away from venting one's spleen at a complete stranger via social media. On thread, as regards the additional 9 point deduction, if it's true, there ought to be some form of enquiry into how exactly this is known by a journalist before the EFL have formally laid out the specifics of the charges brought and the penalties attached to them. It stinks to the high heavens and speaks to the incredibly divisive way they have sought to undermine the club at every juncture. After two years of embargos, with all the issues such sanctions bring, we now find ourselves looking at a 21 point sanction on top and for what? For using ERV and not straight line amortisation policies! If these reports are true, then I can imagine precisely the line they have adopted in their 'negotiations; challenge either or both charges and we'll seek to expel you from the league. If this is correct then it's small wonder that the talks were 'adjourned' and even less surprising that Mel felt he had to walk away. So much for the 'integrity of the league'. No question, we've made errors of judgement, but has any club ever been faced with such a heavy price to pay for what was, compared to other clubs' transgressions, a relatively minor offence? 'We want Derby County to be sustainable' - GTFOH I think Luton were given an almighty penalty (not sure what for) , but that just showed how these things snowball. EFL relegate a club and what happens? they lose money and are in a further financial mess. It makes no sense. jono, jimtastic56 and Comrade 86 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 My piss is boiling right now!! I’m so angry. Seething!! This is an absolute disgrace!! The EFL is a shocking organisation that panders to its most vocal members. This isn’t about financial fair play, integrity of the league or making clubs sustainable, this is politics pure and simple!! I want the administrators to publish everything, i want to know exactly what we have done that constitutes a 9 point penalty, how much have we breached by to the pound and penny - if it adds up to a 9 point deduction then fair enough and it’s more Mel lies. If it doesn’t, then we’ve been totally done over - exploited due to our position being in admin and needing closure to sell the club. If it’s never released then we know the answer. That all said, despite being angry at the EFL the main person to blame for all of this is Mel. He plunged us into admin, he started the fight with the EFL and he ran away and both issues have contributed to us now being relegation certainties in November. Hawaiian, jimtastic56, Kathcairns and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Just now, JfR said: If we go down more than 12 points behind safety that one carries over into next season The admin deduction? I don’t think it does. Only if you go into admin after relegation is confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Harford Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 36 minutes ago, Reverend said: You may not believe this but Sir David Frost is a Derby lad. I went to school with him and he was a Derby supporter! Yeah I mentioned it later on! He married a Derby lass whom used to babysit a friend of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Harford Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 minute ago, PistoldPete said: I think Luton were given an almighty penalty (not sure what for) , but that just showed how these things snowball. EFL relegate a club and what happens? they lose money and are in a further financial mess. It makes no sense. Luton and Leeds were both very harshly (in my opinion) dealt with by the EFL/FA, Luton was basically for admitting to dodgy agent use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, BramcoteRam84 said: My piss is boiling right now!! I’m so angry. Seething!! This is an absolute disgrace!! The EFL is a shocking organisation that panders to its most vocal members. This isn’t about financial fair play, integrity of the league or making clubs sustainable, this is politics pure and simple!! I want the administrators to publish everything, i want to know exactly what we have done that constitutes a 9 point penalty, how much have we breached by to the pound and penny - if it adds up to a 9 point deduction then fair enough and it’s more Mel lies. If it doesn’t, then we’ve been totally done over - exploited due to our position being in admin and needing closure to sell the club. If it’s never released then we know the answer. That all said, despite being angry at the EFL the main person to blame for all of this is Mel. He plunged us into admin, he started the fight with the EFL and he ran away and both issues have contributed to us now being relegation certainties in November. I agree with you, but the extent to which we should blame Mel will never be known if there is no appeal. A proper examination of exactly why we went into admin is needed. And if Mel is to blame , fair enough but how will we ever know if the admin team just cave in without a proper appeal? jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: Well not really. Because the EFL only complain to the press if an independent panel reaches a decision they disagree with . If an EFL comprising Ridsdale , Gibson and co come up with a decision we should accept it meekly because they are much more careful with their spending and always act with utmost integrity. Ask Gibson's chauffeur and as everyone knows Ridsdale is whiter than white. I always thought you were some gun-slinging yeehah cowboy called Pistol Pete, and quite frankly, I rather admired you for it... I've only just noticed that you are nothing of the sort, and that you are actually pist and old... but still called Pete. I feel partly embarrassed that I've been reading your username wrong all this time, but if truth be told, I also feel a little cheated! This day just keeps going from bad to worse! ? ossieram, Ramarena, Miggins and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Yani P said: I still want to see it confirmed.. I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Gritstone Ram said: Someone must be leaking shizzle to Percy. I doubt it’s us. I feel like throwing stones at the EFL HQ where are they based? Preston Gritstone Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: The trouble is, has Percy ever got anything wrong? He has, especially since his DCFC source jogged him on, but in terms of these processes, it's pretty clear where he is getting his information and I fear that he will be proven correct again. I don't mind admitting that I felt physically sick reading his tweet. If worst comes to worst, then I guess we wipe our mouths, but right now I feel unhealthily bitter towards the EFL board, Gibson et al and It's really not a pleasant place to be. COYR Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: I always thought you were some gun-slinging yeehah cowboy called Pistol Pete, and quite frankly, I rather admired you for it... I've only just noticed that you are nothing of the sort, and that you are actually pist and old... but still called Pete. I feel partly embarrassed that I've been reading your username wrong all this time, but if truth be told, I also feel a little cheated! This day just keeps going from bad to worse! ? #metoo ariotofmyown, Mucker1884 and Miggins 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 minute ago, PistoldPete said: Preston I thought they were in Middlesbrough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: The admin deduction? I don’t think it does. Only if you go into admin after relegation is confirmed. Looked it up, and apparently it's if it happens after the fourth Thursday in March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 27 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: It doesn't make sense does it. All this time 'negotiating' with the EFL and fighting our corner just to accept the worst possible punishment we could have got anyway. The trouble is, has Percy ever got anything wrong? Yes. He supports Forest for a start. RAM1966, Colm, hintonsboots and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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