EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 3 points against Hull. For the rest, god knows what will happen, it may have been submitted already for all we know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Our best way of getting three points is to get three points taken by EFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 36 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: My expectation is a 3-6 point deduction. An immediate points deduction is the one thing I don't really expect to happen. I don't think there's any way we submit P&S restatements that has us over the limit. I think either the numbers are OK (maybe pending a potential agreement with the EFL over some details) and we just submit them, or we insist on using a slightly different non-straight-line method to make the numbers OK, and then fight them on it. And in that case we're back to square one with charges, hearings and appeals etc. I don't see us meekly rolling over, submitting accounts with overspending and accepting a deduction. Certainly not for 6 points anyway. Maybe we do if it's just one or something, but I'm still not convinced on that. The only other potential route to a deduction I can see is if we don't submit the accounts by the 18th. And even then, I suspect we're back to the DC for another round of hearings as there's no punishment specified for non-compliance in the last set AFAIK. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Got this reply today from the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Thank you for your correspondence of 27 June, expressing concern about Derby County Football Club. I am replying as a member of the Ministerial Support Team at the Department for Digital, Culture Media and Sport. Football clubs, such as Derby, form an integral part of their local communities and it is vital they are protected. It is understandable that fans will be concerned for the future of their club. The English Football League referred the case to an Independent League Arbitration Panel which has now ruled. It is not for the government to intervene in this legal process. However, if you wish to take this matter further then you can contact the Independent Football Ombudsman (IFO) which was created in July 2008 by the football authorities, including the Premier League, with the agreement of the government. The IFO was established to receive and adjudicate on complaints which have failed to be resolved by football clubs or the football authorities, and can be contacted at: contact@theifo.co.uk However, I can confirm that an independent regulator and finances are both being considered as part of the Fan Led Review of Football Governance, chaired by Tracey Crouch MP. As you may know, the Fan Led Review recently announced its interim findings, which can be found here, and DCMS Ministers look forward to the Review’s final report in the autumn. Thank you again for raising your concerns. RadioactiveWaste and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Hands up who was hoping for a six day extension. NottsRam77 and Derby4Me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 minute ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Hands up who was hoping for a six day extension. I expected a 48 hour extension. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 On 15/08/2021 at 19:30, Mucker1884 said: I will be amazed if we hear anything "official"... from the club and/or EFL, before midnight ending 18th August. Twitter might be different though! ? I feel like I've been diddled. I was sort of right all along, and yet officially, the record will show I was wrong! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, ram59 said: I expected a 48 hour extension. Well if you think about it we've had 3 48hr extensions all in 1 go ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Looks like just the three points at Hull now given the extension from the EFL. Wonder what Gibson will think being as the paperwork was originally due in tomorrow and he would have had a tip off from Parry if there were any discrepancies. Now he’ll be visiting on Saturday none the wiser to our predicament...if indeed we even have a predicament. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 48 hours x 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 God this is awful. So we haven't filed the final version yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Spanish said: God this is awful. So we haven't filed the final version yet Why is it awful, there have been 'constructive discussions'. Isn't that better than the EFL saying 'duck you hand them over we're gonna do for you'? Afterall the date was just plucked out of thin air, so better we get an agreement and then hand them over, it's just taken a bit longer than guessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Just now, RoyMac5 said: Why is it awful, there have been 'constructive discussions'. Isn't that better than the EFL saying 'duck you hand them over we're gonna do for you'? Afterall the date was just plucked out of thin air, so better we get an agreement and then hand them over, it's just taken a bit longer than guessed. you enjoying this then? I would have liked full effort to get this done early not late, I guess we are trying to push the envelope again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcidaho Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 https://www.theguardian.com/football/football-league-blog/2021/aug/17/rooney-says-he-wont-make-excuses-but-Derby-are-in-an-impossible-mess Not sure if posted elsewhere. i-Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Doesn’t seem like there’s much urgency to get the embargo lifted does there ? Maybe Mel doesn’t want to enter the transfer market at any level to secure the club’s status in this division which I find odd as relegation would surely make the club less attractive to prospective new buyers and would consequently attract a lower price wouldn’t it ? ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, Spanish said: you enjoying this then? I would have liked full effort to get this done early not late, I guess we are trying to push the envelope again What's enjoyment got to do with accounts submission? I'm enjoying that we've signed two more players and if that's down to being 'constructive' with the EFL that's good too. I don't think it's anything to do with pushing the envelope or the EFL could have said - you can have (well, no-one!) just a replacement for CKR. But they've also allowed us a replacement for Bielik, which they didn't do previously. So I would suggest whilst not necessarily enjoyable it does seem positive, and if it takes an extra 6 days then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) I thought we had some loans lined up. I would expect that to be the remaining transfer business we will do. Yoof loans often happen at the end of the window anyway also. (Subject to umbongo doing one..) Edited August 17, 2021 by Dean (hick) Saunders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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