duncanjwitham Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Then you'll be looking at the U18s to fill the bench as they won't count towards the professional standing quota. I imagine Ryan (CB) and Ibrahim (CM/AM) would be the likely contenders That's not right, is it? If they play for the first team in a league or cup game, they count as of-professional-standing, regardless of age. Ellafella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 minute ago, duncanjwitham said: That's not right, is it? If they play for the first team in a league or cup game, they count as of-professional-standing, regardless of age. Not if they're scholars as that's why Williams is my LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Surely Wayne would value beating the Nevilles et al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Not if they're scholars as that's why Williams is my LB. That's not in the rules anywhere, that I can see - if they play, they count as a pro. It's why we had to beg for an exemption for the Chorley players - they were (or at least some were) scholars, but counted as pros once they'd played. To be clear, there's nothing stopping us playing them, but they would count as pros afterwards and block potential other signings if we let players leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
California Ram. Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Sad that Cashin and Thompson is missing out. Assuming under 18s can play without affecting 'professional standing' numbers then Williams (or a fit Buchanan) should start - I'd also put CKR on the bench. Fozzy comes at centre back to give one of the old men a rest. Give Sibley a start as a reward and to keep his morale up. Allsop Byrne Stearman Forsyth Williams Bird Shinnie Sibley Lawrence Joswiak Stretton subs Roos - McDonald - Davies - Hutchinson - Ebosele - Watson - CKR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted August 9, 2021 Author Share Posted August 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Rampage said: What time does the parade start. Hopefully never, a comfortable 3-0 will do. Rampage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: That's not in the rules anywhere, that I can see - if they play, they count as a pro. It's why we had to beg for an exemption for the Chorley players - they were (or at least some were) scholars, but counted as pros once they'd played. To be clear, there's nothing stopping us playing them, but they would count as pros afterwards and block potential other signings if we let players leave. 13:45 STEVE NICHOLSON Squad Squad will be the same as Saturday, the only player who is not classed as a player of 'professional standing' is Dylan Williams, the 17 year old is still a scholar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: 13:45 STEVE NICHOLSON Squad Squad will be the same as Saturday, the only player who is not classed as a player of 'professional standing' is Dylan Williams, the 17 year old is still a scholar. But is Nicholson saying he doesn't count now (but will if he plays), or that he is free to play without being 'capped'? My understanding is the first. Williams was one of the players who played against Chorley - it would make no sense if we had to get an exemption for that game, but he could freely play in this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: That's not in the rules anywhere, that I can see - if they play, they count as a pro. It's why we had to beg for an exemption for the Chorley players - they were (or at least some were) scholars, but counted as pros once they'd played. To be clear, there's nothing stopping us playing them, but they would count as pros afterwards and block potential other signings if we let players leave. Williams and Ibrahim were part of the 'Chorley 8' still with us but not on pro contracts. 1st year pros: Solomon, Bardell, Aghatise, Cybulski 2nd year pros: LThompson Other: Duncan Festy and Hutchinson also played but still count Edited August 9, 2021 by Ghost of Clough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Surely if we win this then @ollycutts1982 keeps Carabao Cup games. ollycutts1982 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Williams and Ibrahim were part of the 'Chorley 8' still with us but not on pro contracts. 1st year pros: Solomon, Bardell, Aghatise, Cybulski 2nd year pros: LThompson Other: Duncan Festy and Hutchinson also played but still count So if Williams plays tomorrow, he counts as a pro again? Just like he did from the Chorley game, until we got an exemption? Unless him and Ibrahim never counted from Chorley and it just wasn't made clear at the time? But like I said, there's no mention in the rules on the EFL website about scholars not counting as professional standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addingham Ram Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Am I missing something here. If the squad is the same as Saturday, does that means Morrison isn't included? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 minute ago, duncanjwitham said: So if Williams plays tomorrow, he counts as a pro again? Just like he did from the Chorley game, until we got an exemption? Unless him and Ibrahim never counted from Chorley and it just wasn't made clear at the time? But like I said, there's no mention in the rules on the EFL website about scholars not counting as professional standing. As he's on a youth contract, he won't count towards the professional standing quota... only players on professional contracts count cstand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Addingham Ram said: Am I missing something here. If the squad is the same as Saturday, does that means Morrison isn't included? Cashin and LThompson out, Morrison and Stretton in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Just now, Ghost of Clough said: As he's on a youth contract, he won't count towards the professional standing quota... only players on professional contracts count Where does it say that in the rules? https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/embargoes/embargoes-faqs/ says "Professional Standing = is any Player who has made one first team appearance (including as a sub) for any Club in any first team competition (EFL Trophy appearances do not count)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jram Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 53 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Allsop Byrne Stearman Fozzy Williams Hutchinson Shinnie Sibley Morrison Joz Stretton Roos, Bird, CKR, Watson, Festy Bit lightweight bar Hutch and Stearman and Foz. Who've I missed off, I kept remembering youngsters!? Are we saying Williams wouldn’t take a place in the squad even if he makes an appearance on account of being a scholar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 23 minutes ago, Jram said: Are we saying Williams wouldn’t take a place in the squad even if he makes an appearance on account of being a scholar? Don't know any more. I thought that was the implication but now... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 2 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said: We all know the League cup isn't going to be the big deal for us this season but I think a positive run in the first few rounds of the cup would be something to lighten the mood and might get is a payday against a big club (who think's we'll end up playing Man U or Everton in a totally random draw?) Speak for yourself. We're still on for the treble at the moment you half fan! i-Ram and RadioactiveWaste 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 I know the North stand is completely closed for this but it seems like loads of blocks all around the ground are closed also. Just a few blocks available. Very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 3 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: 13:59 STEVE NICHOLSON Liam Thompson and Eiran Cashin Both youngsters will go out of the squad for the Salford game. No Thompson? Wanted to see him play but guess it’s cause of the GODDAM RULES. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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