DCFC1388 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Spanish said: You are right but I don’t understand the Marriott issue I believe it is because his wages are above the embargo wage limit so it couldnt be approved, which is probably why Wisdom, Davies & Waggy havent just signed back up, it will mean they will probably have to have a big wage cut, potentially by half if they're our highest earners on £20k+ a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretsquirrel Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Not sure how true this is but gives a list of wages to show our highest earners. https://salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-championship/Derby-county/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretsquirrel Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Didnt include Marriott for some reason but here he is which seems what i would have assumed. https://salarysport.com/football/player/jack-marriott/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 2 hours ago, secretsquirrel said: Didnt include Marriott for some reason but here he is which seems what i would have assumed. https://salarysport.com/football/player/jack-marriott/ There is a mistake on there where it says he is a ST (striker) it should read Sub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malty Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 That’s a really interesting table. Are we sure it’s right? obviously the wage bill must have come down significantly over the past few years. We’re left still with neatly 300k per week though - wow! With Clarke going, and wisdom and Davies likely to be cut significantly down, we will soon be around 250k per week. It’s almost as if we are trying to build a sustainable business … … but one which is unlikely to survive in the championship sadly. Anyone know the standard wage for a championship manager. I suspect it’s less than 46k per week!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, Malty said: That’s a really interesting table. Are we sure it’s right? obviously the wage bill must have come down significantly over the past few years. We’re left still with neatly 300k per week though - wow! With Clarke going, and wisdom and Davies likely to be cut significantly down, we will soon be around 250k per week. It’s almost as if we are trying to build a sustainable business … … but one which is unlikely to survive in the championship sadly. Anyone know the standard wage for a championship manager. I suspect it’s less than 46k per week!! Its a load of rubbish... the list includes various players who are no longer at the club!! Te Wierik, Evans, Holmes, Whittaker, JHI, Cresswell, Minkley, Idem = another "£27k" supposedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Based off that table, if you remove the players no longer with us and Rooneys wage with him now being manager our wage bill is £192,630. That's including Wisdom, Davies & Waghorn at their full wage. Without them 3 it is £131,730 a week If all 3 renewed at the reported max embargo amount (11.5k) the weekly wages would be £166,230 - that would also be a wage increase for Waghorn based off that table! Without Waggy's wage increase but the other 2 on 11.5k it would be £162,630 Not sure how accurate the table is but it does go to show how low our wage bill is & could be, I think that's a good position for any new owner to start from. It's easier to bring players in within a budget than to remove/sell players to get within a budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 41 minutes ago, Malty said: That’s a really interesting table. Are we sure it’s right? obviously the wage bill must have come down significantly over the past few years. We’re left still with neatly 300k per week though - wow! With Clarke going, and wisdom and Davies likely to be cut significantly down, we will soon be around 250k per week. It’s almost as if we are trying to build a sustainable business … … but one which is unlikely to survive in the championship sadly. Anyone know the standard wage for a championship manager. I suspect it’s less than 46k per week!! Figures are copied off Football Manager - Rooney's playing wages estimated based on the rumoured £90k he was on (minus the increased sponsorship income). Ibe's estimated based on his in game rather than the rumoured reality of "very little with high performance related bonuses". I'm sure the same applied to Bird, Sibley, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 59 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: Based off that table, if you remove the players no longer with us and Rooneys wage with him now being manager our wage bill is £192,630. That's including Wisdom, Davies & Waghorn at their full wage. Without them 3 it is £131,730 a week If all 3 renewed at the reported max embargo amount (11.5k) the weekly wages would be £166,230 - that would also be a wage increase for Waghorn based off that table! Without Waggy's wage increase but the other 2 on 11.5k it would be £162,630 Not sure how accurate the table is but it does go to show how low our wage bill is & could be, I think that's a good position for any new owner to start from. It's easier to bring players in within a budget than to remove/sell players to get within a budget. It’s still an awful lot of money when nothing is coming in ! Ted McMinn Football Genius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, Sparkle said: It’s still an awful lot of money when nothing is coming in ! Of course it is but that's the same for all clubs, i'd imagine a lot are worse off than use with their wage bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malty Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Feels like a government briefing …. Like “We’ve halved the deficit”. Which means we’re still spending way more than we are bringing in, but it’s not as bad as it was. I’m just wondering if this is a “revolving” system … i.e. you have two or three years of “going for it” followed by two or three years of paying for what you have just done (If you’re not successful). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macintosh Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 On 28/06/2021 at 12:00, Ghost of Clough said: Figures are copied off Football Manager - Rooney's playing wages estimated based on the rumoured £90k he was on (minus the increased sponsorship income). Ibe's estimated based on his in game rather than the rumoured reality of "very little with high performance related bonuses". I'm sure the same applied to Bird, Sibley, etc It's the other way round, Football Manager copies that website and have for half a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilsonram12 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 So we signed waghorn for £5mill+ and he only signed for £7,900 a week? I doubt that... LeedsCityRam and Jram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 On 28/06/2021 at 11:00, Malty said: With Clarke going, and wisdom and Davies likely to be cut significantly down, we will soon be around 250k per week. It’s almost as if we are trying to build a sustainable business … … but one which is unlikely to survive in the championship sadly. You're stuck between a rock and a hard place if you are trying to build a sustainable business in the football league (which isn't what we are trying to do anyway). If you cut everything to the bone and go down you lose a crap ton of income anyway. You have to rely on player sales to make the difference up if you still want to compete as well, but we are as good at selling players as we are at buying them. Its very difficult to get the balance right, but we're just getting rid of anything not nailed down anyway . Malty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelBlimp Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Can I just say that Page 9 was brilliant. Thank you. Premier ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 On 29/06/2021 at 17:34, Ilsonram12 said: So we signed waghorn for £5mill+ and he only signed for £7,900 a week? I doubt that... There was a lot of talk that Sheff Utd wanted him at the time we signed him but his demands were so excessive they backed out. Reports were he wanted £40k plus to go there, now I'm not saying we gave him that, but I imagine given the wages we were paying at the time for Malone, Marriott et al, he must have been on £20k plus. FM always put Jozefzoon at about £5k too, to beat Leeds to his signature I imagine we were far more competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 10 hours ago, ColonelBlimp said: Can I just say that Page 9 was brilliant. Thank you. Went back to look based on this comment. Glad I did. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raich Carter Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 On 29/06/2021 at 15:55, Macintosh said: It's the other way round, Football Manager copies that website and have for half a decade. So why does it has the same positions and players as the starting squads as Fifa 2020? ? I don't believe it for a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimmerman Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 01/07/2021 at 21:43, Rample said: Went back to look based on this comment. Glad I did. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 29/06/2021 at 15:55, Macintosh said: It's the other way round, Football Manager copies that website and have for half a decade. Pretty sure Miles Jacobson once said they had specific sources that he refused to specify for a lot of the contract arrangements that exist? Might be misremembering that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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