ziggyram59 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Ibby said: ROONEY'S RELATIONSHIP WITH Derby OWNER STRAINED Wayne Rooney's relationship with Derby owner Mel Morris has become strained following the collapse of the proposed takeover by Sheik Khaled earlier this month. The former England captain had received repeated assurances that the sale of the club would go through before he took the manager's job. The uncertainty surrounding the club's ownership has added to Rooney's problems as he battles to keep Derby in the Championship, with four players sold to raise funds during the January transfer window and more likely to leave in the summer if Morris remains in charge. Rooney has also had to contend with players' grievances at not being paid on time on several occasions this season. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9407797/AHEAD-GAME-Manager-Graham-Potter-faces-inquest-Brighton.html Is that just typical Daily Mail stirring it up because they hate us? Or is there some truth in this story? Wouldn't be surprised to see Rooney walk at the end of the season if there is no investment in the club, because without it if we think this season as been bad then next season will be a lot worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 hour ago, ziggyram59 said: Is that just typical Daily Mail stirring it up because they hate us? Or is there some truth in this story? Wouldn't be surprised to see Rooney walk at the end of the season if there is no investment in the club, because without it if we think this season as been bad then next season will be a lot worse. Absolutely no new facts in that piece. Just a hypothesis based upon already known facts. No insight is given into Mel and Wayne's relationship at all. It's a sad indictment of the state of British journalism when someone can cut and paste a few snippets together and come up with a pretty obvious hypothesis that is vague but not in itself damaging enough to justify action by Wayne or Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 I'd be amazed if is wasn't strained. The deal was meant to have been done before Christmas. He's been given the managers job with an enforced and inexperienced management team, no money to spend, wages not being paid, desperate loans and now, with the summer looming, no end in sight and a potential window with no prospect of beginning a rebuild. Without investment in the team, next season will be just as hard as this, that's if we're still in the Championship. He's on a hiding to nothing at this rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 3 hours ago, ziggyram59 said: Is that just typical Daily Mail stirring it up because they hate us? Or is there some truth in this story? Wouldn't be surprised to see Rooney walk at the end of the season if there is no investment in the club, because without it if we think this season as been bad then next season will be a lot worse. Perfect scenario would be Rooney quits, exasperated at lack of new owner and investment - just before new owner comes in providing new investment and then replaces Rooney with someone who knows how to manage a football club. Then the new owner deals successfully with defending Rooney's claim for constructive dismissal against the club at an Employment Tribunal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derby8 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 A baptism of fire for Rooney with now 8 more high pressure games to come in quick succession. He has quite a bit of potential as a manager, wish him well, we'll have to see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Absolutely no new facts in that piece. Just a hypothesis based upon already known facts. No insight is given into Mel and Wayne's relationship at all. It's a sad indictment of the state of British journalism when someone can cut and paste a few snippets together and come up with a pretty obvious hypothesis that is vague but not in itself damaging enough to justify action by Wayne or Derby. Their claim that the players haven't been paid on time several times this season is a new claim. Seeing as it has only been reported that they were paid late in December (and one or two claimed January wasn't paid before it was due). The claim of several times is a head scratcher as that implies each month Rooney had been manager they haven't been paid on time, as he has been managing in some capacity for 5 pay days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 I'm not going to be shedding any tears if he flounces off in a big huff at the end of the season. Or tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: I'm not going to be shedding any tears if he flounces off in a big huff at the end of the season. Or tomorrow. If honestly be more amazed if he stayed with us for next season...I think it's very unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyram59 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 5 hours ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Absolutely no new facts in that piece. Just a hypothesis based upon already known facts. No insight is given into Mel and Wayne's relationship at all. It's a sad indictment of the state of British journalism when someone can cut and paste a few snippets together and come up with a pretty obvious hypothesis that is vague but not in itself damaging enough to justify action by Wayne or Derby. Very True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 7 hours ago, ziggyram59 said: Is that just typical Daily Mail stirring it up because they hate us? Or is there some truth in this story? Wouldn't be surprised to see Rooney walk at the end of the season if there is no investment in the club, because without it if we think this season as been bad then next season will be a lot worse. If the Fail is suggesting that take it Wazza and Mel are getting on just fine.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Could be true. Derby’s position isn’t reflecting well on WR and it’s difficult to see how we are going to make progress. plan A rely on academy players plan b - see plan A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 17 hours ago, Tyler Durden said: Yer Lampard did a great job zero progress from the previous season with 3 home international players all season in his side, dread to think what the outcome would be if he didn't have those players available. Well I would imagine that part of the decision to hire Lampard was his potential, maybe even his assurances that he'd bring with him the cream of Chelsea's academy. Otherwise we'd have been entrusting the club to a complete rookie purely on the basis of his name. It'd be like putting Rooney in charge without him bringing the cream of Manu's academy! ? Stone the crows we'd end up relegated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 On 22/03/2021 at 21:57, Pearson. said: Let me think about that? Leicester City - League One Champions Leicester City - Championship Winners Leicester City - Pearson's players/team Premiership Champions. Attributed to Person by sports journalists and Ranieri himself. Employed by ourselves on a three year contract and sacked a few months later due to Mel's ego. So, with the above in mind would you rather continue with the current idiot, or a proven manager with CV as detailed? Mel’s ego ? What evidence do you have for that statement ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 He also missed out the bit about a history of threatening behaviour that’s also on his CV...conveniently enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 On 22/03/2021 at 21:57, Pearson. said: Let me think about that? Leicester City - League One Champions Leicester City - Championship Winners Leicester City - Pearson's players/team Premiership Champions. Attributed to Person by sports journalists and Ranieri himself. Employed by ourselves on a three year contract and sacked a few months later due to Mel's ego. So, with the above in mind would you rather continue with the current idiot, or a proven manager with CV as detailed? League one champs fair enough won championship due to breaking ffp think you being very generous and I haven’t seen the quotes re Leics Prem win. Pearson himself denied this. Rainieri set them up differently. My recollection of his time at Derby was a disaster , poor football , signing of Anya ( took another year for Vydra to come good ) and his sacking was for undisclosed disciplinary reasons which Pearson never appealed. Rumours of disciplinary reasons at Watford as well. Nothing to do with Mel’s ego more Pearson’s if anyone. He is known as a strange character and lives up to that. No success anywhere apart from Leicester , he did well for them no doubt but he would not have been one at Derby and I very much doubt he will be a success anywhere in the future. So no I wouldn't prefer him to the current manager who I will judge next season not this. You using the term idiot to describe Rooney Is very disrespectful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 18 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: My recollection of his time at Derby was a disaster , poor football , signing of Anya ( took another year for Vydra to come good ) and his sacking was for undisclosed disciplinary reasons which Pearson never appealed. Rumours of disciplinary reasons at Watford as well. Nothing to do with Mel’s ego more Pearson’s if anyone. He is known as a strange character and lives up to that. No success anywhere apart from Leicester , he did well for them no doubt but he would not have been one at Derby and I very much doubt he will be a success anywhere in the future. I've criticised Mel for a lot of things but sacking Pearson is not one of them. It was never going to work with him here, he just doesn't fit the club at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 On 26/03/2021 at 20:49, Ibby said: ROONEY'S RELATIONSHIP WITH Derby OWNER STRAINED Wayne Rooney's relationship with Derby owner Mel Morris has become strained following the collapse of the proposed takeover by Sheik Khaled earlier this month. The former England captain had received repeated assurances that the sale of the club would go through before he took the manager's job. The uncertainty surrounding the club's ownership has added to Rooney's problems as he battles to keep Derby in the Championship, with four players sold to raise funds during the January transfer window and more likely to leave in the summer if Morris remains in charge. Rooney has also had to contend with players' grievances at not being paid on time on several occasions this season. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9407797/AHEAD-GAME-Manager-Graham-Potter-faces-inquest-Brighton.html Love this line, making it look like key players were sold from under him. When in reality it was Evans, Whittaker, Duane Holmes and Kiade Gordon all of which he rarely played, with Gordon being the outlier because he was just a kid really. He also sent Marriott back out on loan as he didn’t want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 On 27/03/2021 at 03:35, VulcanRam said: I'd be amazed if is wasn't strained. The deal was meant to have been done before Christmas. He's been given the managers job with an enforced and inexperienced management team, no money to spend, wages not being paid, desperate loans and now, with the summer looming, no end in sight and a potential window with no prospect of beginning a rebuild. Without investment in the team, next season will be just as hard as this, that's if we're still in the Championship. He's on a hiding to nothing at this rate. It’s certainly possible that it’s a strained relationship given the takeover falling through. It also wouldn’t surprise me if he walked away/lost interest. We all saw the Rooney that came back at the start of the season, unfit, lazy, unmotivated and seemingly disinterested. Not a good reflection on him and gives serious cause for concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikh n Bake Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Reggie Greenwood said: won championship due to breaking ffp Imagine being a Derby fan and having the audacity to slate other teams for their attitudes towards FFP ? We're not exactly squeeky clean on this front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ramarena said: We all saw the Rooney that came back at the start of the season, unfit, lazy, unmotivated and seemingly disinterested. Not a good reflection on him and gives serious cause for concern. So why make him manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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