RamNut Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 When did that last happen? it was cruel but not necessarily unwarranted. whittaker has a languid casual style and needs to show a bit more effort and determination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 It was a brave and warranted decision by Rooney, fair play to him. It also put a really important marker down to the young players: you need to be at the level or you're not getting game time. Simple. If Whittaker has got a bit about him, it'll be the making of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 If he doesn't pull himself together, it will be The Last Farewell for Whittaker. Never mind, It's a new World in the morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 It doesn’t happen very often at all, unless there’s an injury, and there’s good reason for that. It’s basically the manager admitting he made a mistake bringing the player on in the first place. Fair play to Rooney for rectifying his error, but he really should have put Waghorn on in the first place. Whittaker looks to lack a spark to me. Casual is probably the right word to use, I’m sure it’s not like he doesn’t care, but he seems a bit unfocused. Most young players are busting at the gut when they get their chance, but Morgan Whittaker doesn’t seem to want it enough almost, harsh as that sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRBee Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Even though the right decision, not sure that it wipes out the implications of a very poor decision by Rooney in the first place. Did he learn nothing from Waghorns recent effectiveness as a sub or take into account Waghorns ability with free kicks/ corners, not to mention his experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Millenniumram said: It doesn’t happen very often at all, unless there’s an injury, and there’s good reason for that. It’s basically the manager admitting he made a mistake bringing the player on in the first place. Fair play to Rooney for rectifying his error, but he really should have put Waghorn on in the first place. Whittaker looks to lack a spark to me. Casual is probably the right word to use, I’m sure it’s not like he doesn’t care, but he seems a bit unfocused. Most young players are busting at the gut when they get their chance, but Morgan Whittaker doesn’t seem to want it enough almost, harsh as that sounds. It's not necessarily a mistake, though I think it was in this case. The manager sends a player on to do a particular job. If that player then goes on to not do that job, it's not necessarily the fault of anyone. Whittaker is supposedly capable of playing in that position. He just did so poorly yesterday. Presumably, Rooney didn't say to Whittaker, ''Go on and be ineffective. Give the ball away in dangerous areas and punt your crosses into the stands.' That would have been a mistake. So would playing him at centre-half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, oldtimeram said: If he doesn't pull himself together, it will be The Last Farewell for Whittaker. Never mind, It's a new World in the morning If he doesn't pull himself together, he could find himself playing for Durham Town next season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hales300k Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Tough for Morgan yesterday , keep your chin up m8 , and keep grafting , you`ll have a good career , hopefully with us ! No problem with the decision though , Bring on the Swans , COYRs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Of all the youngsters promoted to the first team he is the one who imho seems the least ready. When Rooney brought him on my first thought was Stoke are a big side his lack of strength will be a problem. Fair play to Rooney to have the guts to do it but it is a bit of a shame it was one of the youngsters as it could affect him if mentally he is not strong either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 It was a brave decision but the right one. I knew Rooney would bring Whittaker on as soon as Lawrence started to struggle. Most of our joy vs Stoke 1st half was getting in behind their full backs. So it made sense to have a left footer left & a right footer right. Now I know Waghorn is a left footer but he plays on the right and cuts in, not sure running in behind a fullback on the left is his game. Hence why when he did come on he was on the right and Jozwiak moved to the left which didnt make sense as Jozwiak was tearing their left back a new one! Ive said it for a while now but Whittaker really needs a loan out and get regular game time. Once the number of subs drop back to 7 & with Ibe back I cant see him being anywhere near the bench. No Holmes on the bench yesterday, come Jan we could have another forward and/or Marriott plus Duncan could be closer to the first team set up. Plus if Rooney doesnt get the job he would be on the bench or taking someones place in the 11 who then makes the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 That fella who came on for Southampton that time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 59 minutes ago, DRBee said: Even though the right decision, not sure that it wipes out the implications of a very poor decision by Rooney in the first place. Did he learn nothing from Waghorns recent effectiveness as a sub or take into account Waghorns ability with free kicks/ corners, not to mention his experience. Whilst you have explained your thinking regards Waghorn, other than with an element of hindsight you can’t say it was a very poor decision by Rooney to bring Whittaker on. He may have been performing very well in training, and merited his opportunity. Sometimes things just don’t work on the day, but Rooney might have been keeping Waghorn back for the last 30 if CKR had to give way. Neither Waghorn, Sibley or Ibe did much when they came on to nail down a place against Swansea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, Sith Happens said: That fella who came on for Southampton that time? George Weah's cousin who wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Just now, Gee SCREAMER !! said: George Weah's cousin who wasn't. Funny as, souness wasn't it? must have felt like a right muppet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 This is still an audition for Rooney he’s desperate for the job he wants to win so therefor if Whittaker isn’t playing well and dragging down our chances of winning he was right to sub him back off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 It was a bit weird reading the match day thread, post after post saying Rooney needs to be brave and take Whittaker off, he did, then it was ffs what's he taken Whittaker off for, hes destroyed Whittakers career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roboram Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Altobelli 1982 World Cup final subbed on for Italy after an early injury, scored the 3rd goal & was then subbed off exhausted apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Happened to Emmanuel Eboue of arsenal once. Was on one of them Footballs Funniest Moments things. Ali Dia was the Southampton one. Was a scam but very funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 No big deal. If a player isn't pulling his weight, there are subs on the bench. Not a brave decision by Rooney, just an admission that he got it wrong deciding bring Whittaker on in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, europia said: No big deal. If a player isn't pulling his weight, there are subs on the bench. Not a brave decision by Rooney, just an admission that he got it wrong deciding bring Whittaker on in the first place. Seem to remember Jim Smith subbing Harkes after about 20 mins at Fratton Park in 1995 and Harkes never playing for us again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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