Who is to blame

[Dcfcsr92]

It's Rooney fault simple as that we have always looked better when Rooney has been injured or self isolated we are carrying a player every week and we can't afford to do that!, we are not playing as a team because everything is based around Rooney 

[r4derby]

9 hours ago, Mick Brolly said:

Keogh 

 

9 hours ago, Coconut said:

I know it's 'jokes' but... 

...the single biggest defining moment of our recent history

I’m not sure it is. It’s not just 1 moment. While massively unfortunate at Wembley 7 years ago, the incident at the bar last year shook this club in a different way. Our most consistent defender, trusted by nearly all managers and a leader at the back for himself injured and out of the club. That one was on him completely for poor choices and leading players.

Mel is a good businessman but has managed the money so poorly (not including Covid) all by supporting his many managers. Sam Rush takes blame too.

Big moments in big games have more often than not gone against us (QPR, Reading, Hull, Fulham, Villa, etc.)

[Archied]

9 hours ago, G-Ram said:

He needs to take all the blame. The culture of the football club comes from the top

We've gone from everyones favourite second team in 2014 to the most hated club in the division 

We've overspent on poor players, big contracts & on the brink of FFP season after season 

We shouldnt be in a position where we sell the stadium to ourselves. Whilst we all hate the EFL we shouldn't be in court cases against them. 

We've been miss managed from top to bottom & that comes from the top. The yanks had a sustainable model which clough built the foundations & mac 1 got the best out of. Mel has destroyed that 

He's the one that has temporarily put this management committee in place. Its weak leadership.

What went on last season drink driving, Bennetts video etc comes from the top. Put a team in place that the players respect & can sort them out. & if that team can't sort out the mess find someone that can. 

If he wasn't a Derby fan more people would be going mad over his time here. 

We've gone from a well run club to a shambles on & off the field and for me that comes from the top 

Don’t know how many times this has to be pointed out ,,, the yanks DID NOT have a sustainable model , we were losing money , they did not want to keep funding the losses , they wanted out ,,, by all means debate the rest but get the facts right ,don’t make them up to paint a picture 

[lagavulinram]

i like mel. Decent guy.

we all have had our ups and downs. 

we probably just need a good centre forward. Proven track record 60+ goals a season.

[Martin67]

I blame the coaching and people picking the team. I agree that Rooney is past it and not constructive to this team as a player. There are also other average players that do not contribute enough and need to be moved on. Lawrence and Waghorn for example even Marriott. Holmes is not the player he once was and doesn’t seem motivated. It is no surprises that Lowe and Bogle said the training at Sheffield United was way ahead of Derby either. We don’t seem as fit as other teams anymore. 

[Curtains]

The players. 

Slightest setback their heads drop

Each player has to try for 90 minutes.

Indiscipline is a major factor 

The players have to perform it’s not that difficult it’s their job 

 

 

[TheresOnlyWanChope]

10 hours ago, Abu Derby said:

Mel’s choice of manager - got it wrong every time when the alternatives were better. 
I hope to God that he has chosen the right “investors”.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, Lampard almost took us up and Cocu had near universal acceptance that he was a brilliant appointment. 

[S8TY]

But some seemed pleased to see the training ground video where the players were smiling and having a good time after Cocu's exit saying that players seemed happier blah blah..I'm all for a happy working environment but we are bottom of a poor division and to me those images was not what i wanted to see.....we don't look fit enough and I want someone who's going to select players who will run through brick walls and give everything,much like Knight did last night...lets see some proper hard work on the training ground not players p*****g about having a laugh!! we need discipline and hard work and I'm not sure we have the characters for it...only the youngsters seem really up for it Buchanan,Knight Sibley etc I also think Marshall Byrne and Clarke seem to care but the rest can fluff off

Also why has Shinnie been dumped and no Beilik ??? 

[JJs dms]

Anybody worked for a business thats sacked someone twice and set them on for a third time?Says it all really

[Curtains]

2 minutes ago, JJs dms said:

Anybody worked for a business thats sacked someone twice and set them on for a third time?Says it all really

For goodness sake Mac is the only salvation now .

These players think they are bigger than DCFC. 
 

Well I’ve got news for them they ain’t. 
 

Earn your wages. 

[AGR]

Gary O'Neil

[Beetle]

I think it's quite simple really. The players are not good enough. We finished mid table last year and the squad has got worse. It's been getting worse for several years now. The full backs and centre forward positions are not as strong as last year. Our best midfielder hasn't played in midfield and the youngsters are struggling. I had big hope's that Waghorn and Lawrence would sort us out but they were terrible last night. If Bielik doesn't play well when he's back then I cannot see how we can improve.

[CornwallRam]

It is Mel's fault.

Ed Dawes hit the nail on the head last night - Mel has been trying to gather the ingredients together to create something magic.

The problem is that he's the owner of a football club, not a warlock. We didn't need magic. We didn't need the best academy in the country. We didn't need Rams TV. We didn't need LED floodlights, semi-synthetic pitches or concourse heaters. We didn't need free scarves. We didn't need Rooney or Lampard. We didn't Real Madrid's assistant manager and his army of analysts. We didn't need pretty football.

Mel has spent a fortune - no one can knock him for hid commitment to this club. The problem is he's spent it stupidly on a series of vanity projects. 

If he'd have forgotten about the frills and concentrated on the most important thing, he'd be a lot wealthier and we wouldn't be deep in the mire. What we needed was promotion. Had Mel have hired a promotion specialist manager and given him a few million to spend, we'd have gone up. Warnock, Allardyce, Hughton, etc - the 'same old names'. That's because they are actually good at what they do. They get promoted without needing wasting millions on experiments. It may not be exciting, but that can come once the club is established in the Premier League.

[Ram-Alf]

George Jobey.

[BIllyD]

What worries me most in the continuation of making strange appointments that could upset the ethos of the club. We brought in Rosenior, still trying to work out why, Rooney to become a global brand would have been good if we could have afforded him, however are having to subside his wages and play him as a result no matter what. 
 

Now we have brought in a technical director, what even is a technical director ? Any potential new manager would look at that game last night, watching SM getting closer to the dugout as the game went on, hearing he went into the dugout at HT and think sod that. We have probably just narrowed our manager pot quite significantly, seems crazy to bring him in now.

[oldtimeram]

Morris needs to go and go now and have nothing more to do with running the club.  He's a bloody liability

[Uptherams]

11 minutes ago, BIllyD said:

What worries me most in the continuation of making strange appointments that could upset the ethos of the club. We brought in Rosenior, still trying to work out why, Rooney to become a global brand would have been good if we could have afforded him, however are having to subside his wages and play him as a result no matter what. 
 

Now we have brought in a technical director, what even is a technical director ? Any potential new manager would look at that game last night, watching SM getting closer to the dugout as the game went on, hearing he went into the dugout at HT and think sod that. We have probably just narrowed our manager pot quite significantly, seems crazy to bring him in now.

No manager is coming in until the end of season. Why would they? It's got to be McClaren, ensure survival and then in comes the big gun. 

[BIllyD]

5 minutes ago, Uptherams said:

No manager is coming in until the end of season. Why would they? It's got to be McClaren, ensure survival and then in comes the big gun. 

Is that's the case, then why bring him in as technical director.

[RoyMac5]

3 hours ago, Dcfcsr92 said:

It's Rooney fault simple as that we have always looked better when Rooney has been injured or self isolated we are carrying a player every week and we can't afford to do that!, we are not playing as a team because everything is based around Rooney 

You think it would really be that much difference? Waghorn would still be ordinary (kind), Lawrence still occasional, Holmes poor, no striker, Clarke won't make POTS again, a young midfield which will be inconsistent at best - that's why Rooney plays and is captain, it could be worse. We've got to the bottom of the barrel squad-wise. 

[Uptherams]

13 minutes ago, BIllyD said:

Is that's the case, then why bring him in as technical director.

Because that's the role he and they want him in, longer term.