Ibby Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8869479/Phillip-Cocus-exit-Derby-imminent-Wayne-Rooney-taking-Pride-Park.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 On 21/10/2020 at 12:01, RamNut said: The Rooney-Gregory story seemed to me to reveal something going on in the background. the additional appointments to the coaching staff in the summer are also indicative of MM patch repairs. as I have said before, it smells like we are headed for regime Change. but what has changed my position are the institutional failures. recruitment decisions being made by others the failure to recruit a proper striker the failure to recognise what a hindrance and distraction WR has become The nightmare scenario of Rooney and Gregory. I expect to see more moves designed to make Cocu snap. the cost of sacking him is probably the only thing saving him. given the alternatives, I’d rather stick with the man in charge in spite of everything. Sigh ? Quote The always hands-on Morris has increased his demands of Cocu in recent weeks — summoning him to breakfast meetings, asking for written reports of matches and planned training sessions — leading to speculation that the chairman is seeking to pressure him into walking away. That’s exactly what I‘m expecting..... great timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustOneBiblicalKazim Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Breakfast meetings, passing notes. Mel and Phil are having an affair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Hopefully not hide the sausages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathersage Ram Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 On 21/10/2020 at 10:11, Curtains said: Oh blimey Tell Knight and Bird and Buchanan and Whittaker that who he has helped Yes but that's as a coach (and on another point I would give 90% of the credit for their development to Wassall) and as I have stated previously football is littered with great coaches who don't make good managers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hathersage Ram said: Yes but that's as a coach (and on another point I would give 90% of the credit for their development to Wassall) and as I have stated previously football is littered with great coaches who don't make good managers! And great footballers who make rotten managers too. Especially if they’re unqualified! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hathersage Ram said: Yes but that's as a coach (and on another point I would give 90% of the credit for their development to Wassall) and as I have stated previously football is littered with great coaches who don't make good managers! And vice versa. I know it gets boring dragging up Alex Ferguson in every discussion about every manager ever, but he always had a top coach working with him, often taking training sessions on their own. Most of his job was just being angry and Scottish at half-time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 13 hours ago, Archied said: and he loaned Martin out???? Here we go,almost went three posts without bringing him up (again!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 On 21/10/2020 at 10:02, Marriott Ram99 said: Cocu isn't doing anything for the club only regressing us, we can't be any worse than we are so it's worth trying something different. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66DegreesNorth Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 On 21/10/2020 at 10:22, Andicis said: How so? 1 win in 6 is not good enough. We're the 3rd worst side on form already, and we've shown no signs in ability to turn it around. We're in relegation form, and if it doesn't turn around soon we're in genuine danger of relegation. Correct and to an extent, I agree. Fixtures are coming in thick and fast, so too are more first team players. I would argue that we have had our fair share of unlucky knocks already, but signs are there that we are and can further improve. No team go without a 'purple patch' and in the next month of fixtures, there will be nothing for the coaching staff to hide behind and the subject of replacing that team can be revisited with plenty of time left in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 hour ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: Here we go,almost went three posts without bringing him up (again!!) Now come on kash I’m sure you can see humour when it’s posted ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Archied said: Now come on kash I’m sure you can see humour when it’s posted ? I did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 10 hours ago, JustOneChrissyMartin said: Breakfast meetings, passing notes. Mel and Phil are having an affair. If he stays in the job much longer I will begin to think that tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 16 hours ago, Archied said: He’s obviously got an agenda behind that narrative ?, he’s doing well at picking holes in your posts though Just the 55 notifications from you Archied, it's quite funny that I have some agenda that I myself was not aware of, the more you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 7 hours ago, Duracell said: And vice versa. I know it gets boring dragging up Alex Ferguson in every discussion about every manager ever, but he always had a top coach working with him, often taking training sessions on their own. Most of his job was just being angry and Scottish at half-time. I know just the man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 To be honest sacking Cocu and his coaching team at a cost of 4 Million pounds isn’t economic sense. So unless he resigns I think we will have to stick with him unless of course the takeover makes us rich which is doubtful http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/1053913318?-260:828 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil62uk Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 It's gone passed IF THE COCU OUTERS GET THEIR WAY Mel isn't daft he's an exceptional , successful business man , Sacking Phillip Cocu now would cost him a few mill . If the potential new owners come in and do have the financial clout there saying they,ve got and looking at our position in the league .... THE NEW OWNERS WILL SACK PHILLIP COCU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustOneBiblicalKazim Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 43 minutes ago, Curtains said: To be honest sacking Cocu and his coaching team at a cost of 4 Million pounds isn’t economic sense. So unless he resigns I think we will have to stick with him unless of course the takeover makes us rich which is doubtful http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/1053913318?-260:828 Why is it doubtful that he’s got 4 million? He bid 2 billion for Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 45 minutes ago, Curtains said: To be honest sacking Cocu and his coaching team at a cost of 4 Million pounds isn’t economic sense. Does it have to be paid all at once? Mel needs to sack Cocu now. Afterall he's only devaluing the Clubs worth leaving him in post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mckram Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Curtains said: To be honest sacking Cocu and his coaching team at a cost of 4 Million pounds isn’t economic sense. So unless he resigns I think we will have to stick with him unless of course the takeover makes us rich which is doubtful http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/1053913318?-260:828 I think it’s absolute economical sense to sack them and pay £4m. Currently our players values are decreasing with every game played. We will be in League 1, losing out on millions of TV revenue. We will lose season ticket sales losing even more money. If it’s pay £4m now and potentially stay up vs carry on until Christmas and be almost certainly relegated losing tens of millions, I know which I’d pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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