minesahartington Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 31 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: But we aren’t top 10 and we aren’t good to watch. If Martin had stayed imagine where we’d be? Top 2 I reckon. I’m getting the hang of this game now! Imagine we had won every game! It would be great! We would be flying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 Groundhog Day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanram Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 We really are in a bit of a tight spot. Personally I want it to work for Cocu and the thought of sacking another manager and starting all over again is a bit depressing. Whilst it may work it has every chance of being as or even worse. That said if people internally are begging to lose faith with PC then it could quickly become an irretrievable situation. Last week there were a few posters saying that they would be ok if we went down and rebuild from there, whilst taking a trip down memory lane to when we were in Div 3 in the eighties. The circumstances in 2021 for club being relegated would be worlds apart. Going down and getting a manager of Cox’s ability, picking up players like Gregory, Davidson, Phil Gee etc are from a bygone era (unless you are very very lucky once in an era stuff, thinking Leicester most recently). It’s unlikely the club would retain its current Academy status and running the liabilities on Moor Farm would be much more challenging so the dream, fantastic that is of Cocu delivering success a youth based model could ironically go up in smoke. I genuinely hope Cocu can turn this around but there will come a point where it will be a horrible eventuality that the dice will have to be rolled and we prevent a relegation situation that could have an effect that lasts for a generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjsxLS4jMbsAhV0sHEKHUdbBeQQFjAAegQIBxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.derbytelegraph.co.uk%2Fsport%2Ffootball%2Ffootball-news%2Fhe-know-steve-nicholson-looks-4628716&usg=AOvVaw1jj1Xbyyy43hH3JcFui6Bm ‘Managers are judged on results, and that comes with the territory, but this is not the time to be talking about changing the manager. This is a time to focus on Friday's clash with Nottingham Forest and hopefully a positive result’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Jourdan said: But sadly it’s in the same way I want to dance the tango on the streets of Buenos Aires with Penelope Cruz. Brilliant. But it would be Jennifer Lopez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, Van Cone De Head said: Brilliant. But it would be Jennifer Lopez. Rather dance on the streets of Vegas with Sandra Bullock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Just now, DC-1975 said: McClaren signed Christie, Shotton, Albentosa and Warnock and failed to make the playoffs Made a profit on Albentosa didn't we? Warnock did a job, Christie was a young prospect and did ok, and Shotton fulfilled multiple positions, how are those bad signings like Rowett's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Andicis said: Made a profit on Albentosa didn't we? Warnock did a job, Christie was a young prospect and did ok, and Shotton fulfilled multiple positions, how are those bad signings like Rowett's? Rowett signed Lawrence who is better than all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Curtains said: Rowett signed Lawrence who is better than all of them. Those aren't all of McClaren's signings you're aware? Ince was better than Lawrence at Derby, statistically. Another McClaren signing. 5 minutes ago, DC-1975 said: Who? Davies is still here. Huddlestone did a job. We got our money back on Jerome and Lawrence was a young prospect He spent loads of Lawrence, and got in a bunch of aging players on huge wages. Great transfer dealing. Real sustainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayram Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 They say a picture is worth a thousand words... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, AndyinLiverpool said: There's at least one 'Cocu Outer' who wants Forest to win on Friday. This Outer needs to be outed and then out! Over and out...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, DC-1975 said: McClaren didn’t sign Ince. That was Clement. How do you know what their wages were. McClaren signed Nugent, does that count? I don’t want a McClaren argument, because I liked him. My point was calling Rowett a bad manager is ridiculous, just because his teams don’t play as you like. If we had Sean Dyche as manager and he’d had the success he’s had at Burnley, there would be fans on here telling us they don’t like the football and the 2014 team was much better . I already told you I rate Dyche, Mourinho and Warnock, so it's not about the style is it? Keep pushing your narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: This Outer needs to be outed and then out! Over and out...? Out out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, Jayram said: They say a picture is worth a thousand words... this makes me so sad. He's the kind of guy you want good things to happen to. He's not had any Nigel Clough style rants, he's copped the flak, he's lived within Mels constraints without complaint. I reckon he's had to endure the Rooney circus without murmer. He deserves a break. I hope the team rally round. It's in their hands to run through walls on Friday night - not just young Jason....all of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Van Cone De Head said: Out out? Right out. Out to the outer rim. Outy McOut Face ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriggRam Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Ambitious said: I can't think of one team selection this season that I would class as mind boggling personally. We just haven't had the players available. Last night 3 strikers on the bench none on the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, DC-1975 said: McClaren didn’t sign Ince. That was Clement. How do you know what their wages were. McClaren signed Nugent, does that count? I don’t want a McClaren argument, because I liked him. My point was calling Rowett a bad manager is ridiculous, just because his teams don’t play as you like. If we had Sean Dyche as manager and he’d had the success he’s had at Burnley, there would be fans on here telling us they don’t like the football and the 2014 team was much better . Ince came to Derby under Steve McLaren on loan initially at the end of the 2014 to 15 season. Nugent was a pretty astute purchase by Mac as a replacement for Mac after Pearson had sent our striker to fulham....he did okay for rowett didn't he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, DC-1975 said: My narrative? I challenged your view on Rowett. Yes, and you've said it's just for his style of play. I told you it isn't, and you're still going on with the same lines that I've already said isn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjXs-OamcbsAhUaiFwKHaQ7BhcQFjACegQIAhAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.derbytelegraph.co.uk%2Fsport%2Ffootball%2Ffootball-news%2Fgary-rowett-Derby-signings-graded-1377576&usg=AOvVaw0EQ1XYgWPUT_cUb7C53uUW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisby Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: this makes me so sad. He's the kind of guy you want good things to happen to. He's not had any Nigel Clough style rants, he's copped the flak, he's lived within Mels constraints without complaint. I reckon he's had to endure the Rooney circus without murmer. He deserves a break. I hope the team rally round. It's in their hands to run through walls on Friday night - not just young Jason....all of them! Agree with everything you say .... Anyone think that as he appears to be such a gent, a dignified & principled man that he may just save Mel a shed load of money and offer his resignation?? Not saying I want him to but once he believes his position has become untenable could he walk?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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