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Rate the last film you saw partie deux


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2 hours ago, Animal is a Ram said:

I've never really got Superman. He's just a bit too goody goody, same for Captain America.

Team Iron Man all the way for Civil War.

Agree on Superman, plus he should be the best super hero ever and he always falls foul to blatantly obvious traps, not like he has x-ray vision, move as fast a bullet or owt <_< 

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11 minutes ago, rynny said:

Agree on Superman, plus he should be the best super hero ever and he always falls foul to blatantly obvious traps, not like he has x-ray vision, move as fast a bullet or owt <_< 

He's extremely difficult to write for, particularly when you look at the film version of Superman who is just completely invincible. The more modern superman is different, less powerful and more human.

To wrote a good superman, you have to approach him as a guy from Kansas with these powers who's just trying to do the right thing amongst all the politics/espionage of the modern world. Captain America: Winter Soldier is a perfect superman film. Cap's working for SHIELD who he thought were the good guys but it turns out they're not and its about how he reacts to that. 

Unfortunateky, Zach Snyder's a bit clueless with characterisation.

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2 minutes ago, Leicester Ram said:

He's extremely difficult to write for, particularly when you look at the film version of Superman who is just completely invincible. The more modern superman is different, less powerful and more human.

To wrote a good superman, you have to approach him as a guy from Kansas with these powers who's just trying to do the right thing amongst all the politics/espionage of the modern world. Captain America: Winter Soldier is a perfect superman film. Cap's working for SHIELD who he thought were the good guys but it turns out they're not and its about how he reacts to that. 

Unfortunateky, Zach Snyder's a bit clueless with characterisation.

I was talking about Superman in general. "Oooh look a green pebble, ah my powers have gone." :ermm: He is captured so easily in all walks of Superman. I want to like him but I just can't help but feel how lame and meh he is.

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10 hours ago, Leicester Ram said:

He's extremely difficult to write for, particularly when you look at the film version of Superman who is just completely invincible. The more modern superman is different, less powerful and more human.

To wrote a good superman, you have to approach him as a guy from Kansas with these powers who's just trying to do the right thing amongst all the politics/espionage of the modern world. Captain America: Winter Soldier is a perfect superman film. Cap's working for SHIELD who he thought were the good guys but it turns out they're not and its about how he reacts to that. 

Unfortunateky, Zach Snyder's a bit clueless with characterisation.

"Clueless" is an understatement, Leicester. I can say that, apart from Watchmen (which was okay), every other film he's made has been superficial junk of the highest order. It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that he thinks he's being profound. That, for me, makes him worse than even Michael Bay, who at least doesn't feel the need to apologise for his awful brain-dead and bombastic films. 

I am now officially done with superhero films. With a few honourable exceptions, most of them have been *****. The big studios are now taking us for suckers. 

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27 minutes ago, SantosHalper said:

"Clueless" is an understatement, Leicester. I can say that, apart from Watchmen (which was okay), every other film he's made has been superficial junk of the highest order. It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that he thinks he's being profound. That, for me, makes him worse than even Michael Bay, who at least doesn't feel the need to apologise for his awful brain-dead and bombastic films. 

I am now officially done with superhero films. With a few honourable exceptions, most of them have been *****. The big studios are now taking us for suckers. 

I get what you mean with Snyder, I massively dislike what he does with DC and I'm dreading Justice League. Man of Steel is even more unforgivable now I've seen BvS. But I think you're very premature to write off all these superhero films.

While it is becoming pretty tiresome with the only increasing amount of superhero stuff coming, it has become a vehicle for some directors to do extremely interesting stuff with a big budget. Just look at Guardians of the Galaxy, really interesting film made by an exciting, young director. Ant-Man would have been great if it hadn't gone pear shaped with Edgar Wright, Favreau's first Iron Man flick is still brilliant, Winter Soldier has opened up an entire new world of possibilities for the Russo brothers and even DC have Suicide Squad is looking promising under David Ayer.

There's a world of directors out there who will produce some great stuff with Marvel/DC, it's just a matter of sitting through the bigger, committee directed dross.

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19 minutes ago, Leicester Ram said:

I get what you mean with Snyder, I massively dislike what he does with DC and I'm dreading Justice League. Man of Steel is even more unforgivable now I've seen BvS. But I think you're very premature to write off all these superhero films.

While it is becoming pretty tiresome with the only increasing amount of superhero stuff coming, it has become a vehicle for some directors to do extremely interesting stuff with a big budget. Just look at Guardians of the Galaxy, really interesting film made by an exciting, young director. Ant-Man would have been great if it hadn't gone pear shaped with Edgar Wright, Favreau's first Iron Man flick is still brilliant, Winter Soldier has opened up an entire new world of possibilities for the Russo brothers and even DC have Suicide Squad is looking promising under David Ayer.

There's a world of directors out there who will produce some great stuff with Marvel/DC, it's just a matter of sitting through the bigger, committee directed dross.

Yeah, I think I can agree with much of what you say there. Aside from Snyder, GotG was good, and the first Iron Man was really good. I also quite enjoyed the first Thor film, and the first Captain America film. I will see how long my boycott of superhero films goes, and will wait until I hear more about Suicide Squad and Justice League. 

Just before I continue, a disclaimer -- I have not seen Ant Man or Winter Soldier. 

But with many of these franchises, they get worse really quickly. The Iron Man films went downhill, and the second Thor film was utterly terrible. I also thought that the Avengers films were hugely over-rated and got worse too. I like Joss Whedon, and every review told me how smart and witty the films were. But I just couldn't see it. Perhaps this is my failing, as I've never been a massive fanboy of the comics or the "universe". 

This is my problem -- the "universe". We can expect endless films based around these franchises from both the DC and Marvel universes, and it just seems like its a never-ending stream of films designed purely to exploit the fans. BvS is an awful mess, and from what I gather so was Ant Man after Wright was pushed off the project. (By the way, how great would it have been with a Joe Cornish script and directed by Wright?) 

I'm posting you a link of Robbie Collin's review of BvS, which is really worth reading. But scroll down to the bottom and you'll see the list of DC films in the pipeline. There are 9 (nine) new films taking us up to 2020. Add that to the Marvel universe and we'll see at least a couple a year for the next decade. 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/film/batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice/review/

You're right that some good directors are trying to do interesting things with some of these films. But most of them are dross, and we're being inundated with this stuff. And we also know that Disney is planning loads of Star Wars spin-offs too. Where is this going to end? Even flipping Ghostbusters has more films planned after the next reboot. And Spiderman -- how many Spiderman reboots do you think we'll see? We've already had two! In the last decade! And now we have two Superman reboots to add to the seemingly never-ending list. Next up is Doctor Strange, with Benedict Cumberbatch. One of our finest actors has succumbed to the urge. 

These major studios know they have a captive audience that will lap up any dross they serve up. It just goes to show that the mainstream film industry has given up any last vestige of creativity or originality. They have a stock of existing characters that will be mined for decades to come, and I find that sad. 

Rant. Over. 

 

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Just now, Wolfie said:

Zombieland (2009)

Not sure how this one escaped me until last Saturday but I enjoyed it. A good cast (Woody Harrelson, Emma Stone, Jesse Eisenberg) and entertaining zombie road trip storyline with a very good cameo apppearance from Bill Murray thrown in.

9/10

pretty sure a number 2 has recently been announced

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