Gritstone Ram Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 46 minutes ago, oomarkwright said: Good luck Jacob. You were great at Barnsley and Huddersfield. Not your fault it didn't work out with our panic buy. I think he scored a couple at Hull too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 And so it ends ! Signed for a very large fee and a four year contract and played about one full season in total - very poor value for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Nothing personal. Bye Jacob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Dont' forgot to close the door on your way out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 His Derby career quickly turned into a toe-tal disaster. Good luck to him getting back on his feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arch Deacon Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 On 29/07/2019 at 10:55, Igor Igor Whats the Score? said: And yet it still hasn't happened ? Over to you Igor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arch Deacon Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 33 minutes ago, Sparkle said: And so it ends ! Signed for a very large fee and a four year contract and played about one full season in total - very poor value for us P**s poor management by us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Arch Deacon said: P**s poor management by us! Never looked like he wanted to be here from day one and he was on a loser because he had to replace Hughes and Bryson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Its easy for people to say it was a bad decision to buy Butterfield and Johnson but both did well to start with, probably more down to changes in systems and managers that things went downhill. We had to buy two players, yes it might have been a bit panic but what other choice did we have? Our season would have been a huge struggle had we not signed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Can’t believe we didn’t get anything for him. What a bad buy - think it was Clement that signed him and Johnson for eye watering total of £10m. Zero in return. Terrible decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 First season he did ok. Scored 5 or 6 top class goals and actually looked effective but after clement left he never did anything of note. Hope he can muster some kind of career back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 All the best Jacob. You needed a good run in your best position. You never really got it after Clement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Odds on to score against us later in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Keep smiling ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 39 minutes ago, Rampage said: All the best Jacob. You needed a good run in your best position. You never really got it after Clement. What was his best position? It wasn’t in a 4-3-3 which we played under Clement Mac and Lampard, he may have scored 8 goals that first season, mainly individual efforts but didnt have the legs to get round the pitch, didn’t support the front man leaving Martin isolated, couldn’t tackle, couldn’t defend. I personally think would’ve been best as a 10 in a 4-4-1-1 or 4-2-3-1 but how good would he have been in comparison to Vydra for example? He was the wrong signing for us. Completely not his fault and wish him well at Luton. He’s a skilful footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 hours ago, oomarkwright said: Good luck Jacob. You were great at Barnsley and Huddersfield. Not your fault it didn't work out with our panic buy. Spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, BramcoteRam84 said: What was his best position? It wasn’t in a 4-3-3 which we played under Clement Mac and Lampard, he may have scored 8 goals that first season, mainly individual efforts but didnt have the legs to get round the pitch, didn’t support the front man leaving Martin isolated, couldn’t tackle, couldn’t defend. I personally think would’ve been best as a 10 in a 4-4-1-1 or 4-2-3-1 but how good would he have been in comparison to Vydra for example? He was the wrong signing for us. Completely not his fault and wish him well at Luton. He’s a skilful footballer. Totally agree. He was a very good Championship-level player with Barnsley and Huddersfield then after a decent start with us, completely lost his way when totally played out of position by some of our numpty managers. Relieved for him and us that he's finally moved on, though comments such as "good riddance" says much about some Derby fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 33 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: Keep smiling ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodleyRam Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Technically a decent player, performed well for a time and looked the part. Indicative of our odd / desperate transfer policy at that point. Not sure it was his fault, just struggled to fit different systems and hugely lost his way. Hopefully he gets some games and finds some form. Miserable Bamford though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arch Deacon Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Sparkle said: Never looked like he wanted to be here from day one and he was on a loser because he had to replace Hughes and Bryson You’re wrong. I know from close club and player contacts that he was made up at joining Derby. Loved his first season with the club and loved the fans. Read nothing into the lads demeanor. Some footballers feel uncomfortable kissing badges and ass! He was impressive under Clement for the first 2/3rds of the season. Clement got sacked when we were 5th. Before that his 2 goals at Hull put us top. Maybe, just maybe, if we’d persevered with PC we might have gone up. But his sacking and the subsequent appointment of Wassell changed everything, and I suspect knocked his confidence when he resorted to the old school and preferred Bryson (energetic but talentless!) . From there it was patchy. Mac 2 loved him, he got sacked when we were 7th. Eventually Rowetball took over. He called him out for the midfield dodging garbage he insisted on, and the “fans” turned against him. (Despite ironically agreeing with him) Booed him on to pre-season games in the early Lampard era. And Lampard, naively, was influenced, and extradited him into the u23’s. He was never a replacement for Hughes IMO, and Bryson not fit to tie his laces. Our loss! Luton’s gain! On a free! How mental is that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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