Day Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 33 minutes ago, Alpha said: There is if you're badly wrong I disagree. And before I get labelled a McClaren hater, 13/14 under McClaren is a close second. When I say this, I have taken a step back, looked at the club when they both arrived, the tools they had, transformation on the pitch. Let’s not also forget that the gung ho stuff we enjoyed was credited to Paul Simpson, the stick another forward on, don’t worry about the defence. I believe and can’t be proven wrong, but with the likes of Hughes, Hendrick and Bryson in his prime, replacing Nigel Clough and throw in a couple of Chelsea loans and Lampard would have taken us up. In his first season in management. Again, not a McClaren hater, I must stress this. Both were found lacking tactically at times, McClaren a little more rigid in his thinking and struggled with key injuries as did Lampard. The switch to the diamond which bamboozled Bielsa would never have happened under McClaren. McClaren tweaked what Clough had started but didn’t have the bottle for, Lampard transformed how the team played before his arrival. I have no issues if I’m out here on my own with this one. Opinions like who is the best will always be subjective, especially when both took us to the same distance. Wembley and 90 minutes from the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFox1993 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Hoping for a 9am announcement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 minute ago, SFox1993 said: Hoping for a 9am announcement Yep the sun is shining in Derby, the birds are singing, time to get our Coc out and show the world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, David said: I disagree. And before I get labelled a McClaren hater, 13/14 under McClaren is a close second. When I say this, I have taken a step back, looked at the club when they both arrived, the tools they had, transformation on the pitch. Let’s not also forget that the gung ho stuff we enjoyed was credited to Paul Simpson, the stick another forward on, don’t worry about the defence. I believe and can not be proven wrong, but with the likes of Hughes, Hendrick and Bryson in his prime, replacing Nigel Clough and throw in a couple of Chelsea loans and Lampard would have taken us up. In his first season in management. Again, not a McClaren hater, I must stress this. Both were found lacking tactically at times, McClaren a little more rigid in his thinking and struggled with key injuries as did Lampard. The switch to the diamond which bamboozled Bielsa would never have happened under McClaren. McClaren tweaked what Clough had started but didn’t have the bottle for, Lampard transformed how the team played before his arrival. I have no issues if I’m out here on my own with this one. Opinions like who is the best will always be subjective, especially when both took us to the same distance. Wembley and 90 minutes from the Premier League. If Mac had of had the full season like Frankie did he would have got us up in that first season...in the games he was Manager we gained the most points in the division.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 20 to 10 here and still no news! I wish secks lasted as long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: If Mac had of had the full season like Frankie did he would have got us up in that first season...in the games he was Manager we gained the most points in the division.... Maybe, it’s all if’s but’s, maybes and hypothetical aunties now. I have a feeling Frank will go on to have a better managerial career than McClaren, that won’t change the work they both did at Derby I know. Could be wrong, but looks exactly the type of man the FA would look at for the England job further down the line. Free free to quote when he’s sat next to Rio in the BT studio next season ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 48 hours...Top trolling by Radio Derby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Are we going to announce Cocu at 10:00 (shirt number 10 Netherlands 00/01), 11:00 (#11 Vitesse 92/93 and Netherlands 97/98)), 15:00 (#15 Barcelona 98/99), or 20:00 (#20 Netherlands 95/96)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I have a feeling the 48 hours is a wind up. I also think Mel is clever enough to allow the dust to settle with Lampard before our turn in the limelight. Announcement much later today or even tomorrow maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, TuffLuff said: 48 hours...Top trolling by Radio Derby Special Talk-In at 6pm, so we know the announcement will be before then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 minute ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: I also think Mel is clever enough to allow the dust to settle with Lampard before our turn in the limelight. Announcement much later today or even tomorrow maybe? Later today in time for the Moan-in on RD! ? Will he be spotted jetting off to the US with the squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admira Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 C’mon Rams. Florist announced their new boss minutes after O’Neil left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 To be announced at 6.04pm when the sportscene talkin is introduced "we'll now Lampard has left for Chelsea, we've got two very special guests in the studio this evening, Derby chairman and owner Mel Morris, and....... Philip Cocu, who is now Derby County manager." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarchesRam Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Rock out with our Cocu out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibby Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Good luck Phillip Cocu he will need time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Ibby said: Good luck Phillip Cocu he will need time. Definitely. Give him until end of August to be in top 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, MarchesRam said: Rock out with our Cocu out The first Cocu of Spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 17 minutes ago, admira said: C’mon Rams. Florist announced their new boss minutes after O’Neil left We have higher standards at all levels! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Jimbo Ram said: If Mac had of had the full season like Frankie did he would have got us up in that first season...in the games he was Manager we gained the most points in the division.... But the one game we were hot favourites for and should have won, we lost. Losing to Villa (a decent side) wasn't the surprise - losing to QPR (a crap side) was. Sadly, both play-off final defeats I put down to the managers' team selections on the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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