MarchesRam Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: I think he’s absolutely fabulous I bet you think he's Purdey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontTrustTheDevilInside Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018–19_Derby_County_F.C._season Based on the telegraph articles trying to calm the lack of transfers I thought I would take a look when we do fall behind, assuming you ignore Eyoma and Ebosele as reserve/academy players. We are currently on 2 signings as things stand (1 permanent and 1 loan) As of yesterday last year we were on 2 also (Mount and Wilson both on loan) The next transfers last year were Zoon (20/7), Marriott (26/7) and Evans (31/7) and then Tomori (6/8) the remainder came in on deadline day (8/8- Malone, Waghorn and Holmes). I am not sure we need as many players (I believe 1 is crucial (cb) and then a few further could improve the team (gk, a 2nd cb, cm). I have seen suggestion of wingers etc but I am less bothered about that as I don't have a necessity of playing out and out wingers in the modern game and would quite like to see some of the academy players used in this position. This is all also assuming we have no players sold who people are currently assuming will be part of the team, they would need replacing e.g. Bogle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: I think he’s absolutely fabulous Remember his timewasting and just think he is a collossal fridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 38 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: I think he’s absolutely fabulous Thief! As for the suggestion, the post I quoted was by @Leicester Ram saying he put in one of the worst goalkeeping performances by a Championship keeper someone had seen in years, and it really was bad, so I can't say I'm particularly on board with the suggestion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inter politics Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Billy Gilmour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
California Ram. Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Current bodycount since the end of last season is 17 Gone back: Mount, Wilson, Tomori, King Sold: Johnson, Thomas, Delap Released: Bryson, Blackman, Nugent,, Elsnik, Pearce, Ollson, Cole, Ambrose, Eyoma, Karic, Rashid. Could easily be 20 wages off the books plus the compensation money before the end of the transfer window (Butterfield, Wisdom, a left back, Carson ?) plus our annual compensation income and the stadium sale. Despite FFP there has to be financial room for some significant signings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, singaporeram said: Current bodycount since the end of last season is 17 Gone back: Mount, Wilson, Tomori, King Sold: Johnson, Thomas, Delap Released: Bryson, Blackman, Nugent,, Elsnik, Pearce, Ollson, Cole, Ambrose, Eyoma, Karic, Rashid. Could easily be 20 wages off the books plus the compensation money before the end of the transfer window (Butterfield, Wisdom, a left back, Carson ?) plus our annual compensation income and the stadium sale. Despite FFP there has to be financial room for some significant signings... It also wouldn't suprise me if permanent 'big' signings are being held off until we know what talent we get from Chelsea, or other teams. No point spending 6 million on a CB if we get Tomori for another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontTrustTheDevilInside Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, singaporeram said: Current bodycount since the end of last season is 17 Gone back: Mount, Wilson, Tomori, King Sold: Johnson, Thomas, Delap Released: Bryson, Blackman, Nugent,, Elsnik, Pearce, Ollson, Cole, Ambrose, Eyoma, Karic, Rashid. Could easily be 20 wages off the books plus the compensation money before the end of the transfer window (Butterfield, Wisdom, a left back, Carson ?) plus our annual compensation income and the stadium sale. Despite FFP there has to be financial room for some significant signings... The problem is we aren't dealing with true financial dealings (do we have the money) we are dealing in budgetary accounting flexibility against the FFP limits. Johnson, Blackman and Butterfield is at best a 11.5 Million disposal of asset hit this year. We may be relatively ok this season from a cash accounting perspective (but we wouldn't have been in previous years) but that isn't the critical factor at the moment. I would expect 1 maybe 2 more loans to fill that gap from last seasons budget. Maybe one decent value signing (Walton esque but I would hope not another goalkeeper). More (the equivalent of full reinvestment) if we sell players such as Bogle. Maybe a couple of frees or signings from lower divisions or abroad on the cheap like Holmes worked well for us last year at best without a big sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Gnarly Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, singaporeram said: Current bodycount since the end of last season is 17 Gone back: Mount, Wilson, Tomori, King Forgot he came to us to be fair, injury did him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikh n Bake Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 23 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: It also wouldn't suprise me if permanent 'big' signings are being held off until we know what talent we get from Chelsea, or other teams. No point spending 6 million on a CB if we get Tomori for another year. This is exactly my thoughts. See what gaps we can fill with loan signings. Then spend where required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukedcfc Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, singaporeram said: Current bodycount since the end of last season is 17 Gone back: Mount, Wilson, Tomori, King Sold: Johnson, Thomas, Delap Released: Bryson, Blackman, Nugent,, Elsnik, Pearce, Ollson, Cole, Ambrose, Eyoma, Karic, Rashid. Could easily be 20 wages off the books plus the compensation money before the end of the transfer window (Butterfield, Wisdom, a left back, Carson ?) plus our annual compensation income and the stadium sale. Despite FFP there has to be financial room for some significant signings... And the Wembley money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Spalding Ram Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 hours ago, singaporeram said: Current bodycount since the end of last season is 17 Gone back: Mount, Wilson, Tomori, King Sold: Johnson, Thomas, Delap Released: Bryson, Blackman, Nugent,, Elsnik, Pearce, Ollson, Cole, Ambrose, Eyoma, Karic, Rashid. Could easily be 20 wages off the books plus the compensation money before the end of the transfer window (Butterfield, Wisdom, a left back, Carson ?) plus our annual compensation income and the stadium sale. Despite FFP there has to be financial room for some significant signings... Bit out of touch lately with all the comings and goings...............................Are we still paying Fabrizio Ravanellis wages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 we probably still are along with that of all his associates, hangers on and pets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 On 13/07/2019 at 12:40, David said: The eight returning to Cobham from Ireland include Lewis Baker, Izzy Brown and Lucas Piazon, as well as Trevoh Chalobah, Dujon Sterling, Ike Ugbo, Conor Gallagher and Marc Guehi. Surely Baker, Brown and Piazon will be moved on shortly (Palmer likewise). They aren't getting any younger and apart from purple patches haven't realistically shown they are Premier, let alone Chelsea, standard. Chalobah, Sterling and the rest are still definite prospects. I wouldn't say they were as nailed on to have top flight careers as players like Ampadu and James, but I would expect they will be contracted at Chelsea for the foreseeable future. If we deem any of batch one to be suitable, presumably with possibility to develop further, then fine. I don't see as they would be worse than Lawrence et al, and would probably leave us better off. No doubt batch 2 are not the finished article but may offer cover and competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Tom Davies on loan from Everton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyD Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 hours ago, lukedcfc said: And the Wembley money. Maybe this is the exact reason why the club are keeping such a low profile on new signings - fed up of being legged over in the days it was known we were brimful of cash and getting taken to the cleaners because of it. It’s not the best buying strategy to let it be known you are happy to spend big. I think you are right though luke. I would be surprised if the club didn’t have some cash up their sleeve . But it wouldn’t surprise me if the plan is to give Cocu plenty of time to assess the requirements and then strike in or around deadline day when sellers are up against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 7 hours ago, singaporeram said: Current bodycount since the end of last season is 17 Gone back: Mount, Wilson, Tomori, King Sold: Johnson, Thomas, Delap Released: Bryson, Blackman, Nugent,, Elsnik, Pearce, Ollson, Cole, Ambrose, Eyoma, Karic, Rashid. Could easily be 20 wages off the books plus the compensation money before the end of the transfer window (Butterfield, Wisdom, a left back, Carson ?) plus our annual compensation income and the stadium sale. Despite FFP there has to be financial room for some significant signings... Not sure about that.....we would have made a £25m loss in the last accounts had it not been for the £40m rabbitt which we pulled out the hat.....on top of that the deferred costs of previous signings are increasing each year......and......although we should now have reduced wages significantly, the transfer market has also gone ever so slightly mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jram Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 34 minutes ago, RamNut said: Not sure about that.....we would have made a £25m loss in the last accounts had it not been for the £40m rabbitt which we pulled out the hat.....on top of that the deferred costs of previous signings are increasing each year......and......although we should now have reduced wages significantly, the transfer market has also gone ever so slightly mad. Yeah I think we would have bust FFP next march if we hadn't sold the stadium and the fact we had to give blackman and butts new contracts doesn't scream to me that we are miles from busting even with the stadium sale I know the club want to push the boundaries so we can compete financially but does squeezing a few extra million to spend on transfers really make a big difference on the quality of the team? Maybe so (??) but is it worth risking a huge penalty like Birmingham received I might regret saying this when we're losing 3-1 away at Wigan in January but I'd happily have a quiet couple of transfer windows, keep reducing the wage bill to a sensible percentage of revenue (sub 100% would be a start) and see what happens if you genuinely try some of the academy boys and not claim max bird is in the first team after one start in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 On 11 July 2019 at 16:16, RamNut said: Still got time to sign Crowley. Oh ffs......this is turning into a disasterous window for us. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49030905 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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